Sacramento

[Dvrjon]

I have a request for all of you.

You guy's have given some great reading and enjoyable post's if I may say. Although some are scary with the thoughts of the whole darn process, but it is what it is.
But hey, I am just curious, what is up with O.C.? Anybody got the latest and greatest of the challenges and the best of the shortcuts (if any) or ideas or just any good info when a person applies.

This thread is specific to Sacramento County. The processes and details of the Sac program differ from the OCSD program. A similar thread on Orange County is over here: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...352774&page=16

Best.

[Dvrjon]

It's actually not such a bad thing that a have a little wait left. I've been buying pistols lately and still need to qualify with two of them. I had surgery two weeks ago and still can't shoot. I'm hoping to qualify with them (rehab willing) in early December. If I get them done before issuance I don't have to pay a modification fee or wait for the new card with the additions so I can carry them.
Stupid 1 in 30 rule is slowing down my purchase rate. I never get ppt because someone always beats me to it.

See? Silver Lining to the delay cloud.

For future planning, you don't have to pick up the license on the day after clearance. You can wait to complete purchases and training. Better to do it right the first time.

[CalAlumnus]

Well, Sheriff Jones is running for Congress. Should he win, Sacramento County would be needing a new Sheriff.

The Board of Supervisors would appoint his replacement, wouldn't they? Any sense of who they'd appoint, and whether the replacement would change the CCW policy?

[M&PMarine]

Well, Sheriff Jones is running for Congress. Should he win, Sacramento County would be needing a new Sheriff.

The Board of Supervisors would appoint his replacement, wouldn't they? Any sense of who they'd appoint, and whether the replacement would change the CCW policy?

Yeah I saw that as well and was thinking the same thing. I would hope that any replacement would continue on the same path as Jones. If not I would think that that person would have a real hard time ever getting re-elected in this climate. I think that we have developed into a good size voting block.

[Dvrjon]

Well, Sheriff Jones is running for Congress. Should he win, Sacramento County would be needing a new Sheriff.

Well, he doesn't have to relinquish the office while running, so there's some time. Plus, he's running against Ami Bera, who has survived two previous attempts to unseat him, and , "(p)olitical prospects for Democrats typically are much better during presidential election years because turnout is higher among younger and non-white voters who tend to support Democrats." http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-...e44772501.html

I really like Jones, and while I'd like to see Bera go, he's shown he's a tough under election grinds.

The Board of Supervisors would appoint his replacement, wouldn't they?

Yes. LA did so to replace Baca and Orange County replaced Corona by appointment.

Any sense of who they'd appoint, and whether the replacement would change the CCW policy?

And the panic begins.....
Just a smidge early, yes? The Sheriff has to announce, then run, then get elected. I would expect the Board of Supervisors to engage a significant search with an interim Sheriff. Regrettably, this Board of Supervisors has shown little common sense in the past.

[Old_Bald_Guy]

Sacramento *** TIME TO APPLY!!! ***

The settlement in 2010 under McGinnis doesn't just cease to exist when a new sheriff comes in. As far as I know, anyway.


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[Paladin]

Well, Sheriff Jones is running for Congress. Should he win, Sacramento County would be needing a new Sheriff.

The Board of Supervisors would appoint his replacement, wouldn't they? Any sense of who they'd appoint, and whether the replacement would change the CCW policy?

This is why I've long said those is vSI counties can't just sit back and say "Well, I've got mine!" You have to push their friends, family members, shooting buddies, friends from church, possibly even coworkers to apply and get theirs too. If we ultimately do not win Peruta, the Sac Co sheriff might decide to flip back to highly restrictive issuance since that will have been upheld in federal court (thus the lawsuit by our side that the settlement settled will not likely prevail if refiled), and you all will be back in the same boat with most of the SFBA, LA and SD.

You have to make restrictive issue a political 3rd rail since we still do not have legal or Constitutional protection for it (yet, if ever).

[Sapperforward]

What a bummer it would be to get issued only for them to revoke before your first renewal. I'll be watching this situation closely.

[Dvrjon]

The settlement in 2010 under McGinnis doesn't just cease to exist when a new sheriff comes in. As far as I know, anyway.

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I don't think that was a "settlement". McGuiness changed policies, and the suit (Sykes v. McGuiness) was dropped while Richards v. Prieto continued. That's been decided citing Peruta, so now languishes at the 9th.

A new Sheriff can institute new policies. Or, can continue and enhance the existing.

[Old_Bald_Guy]

I don't think that was a "settlement". McGuiness changed policies, and the suit (Sykes v. McGuiness) was dropped while Richards v. Prieto continued. That's been decided citing Peruta, so now languishes at the 9th.

A new Sheriff can institute new policies. Or, can continue and enhance the existing.

Interesting. All that went into effect a few months prior to when I first applied. I recall seeing it referred to as a settlement numerous times, and I guess I just incorporated that into my interpretation.


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[Old_Bald_Guy]

Sacramento *** TIME TO APPLY!!! ***

Jones obviously factored the projected public response into his political calculations, because without a settlement, he could've switched back to virtual no-issue. If he had his sights set on running for Congress in this competitive district all along, that gives his decision to issue an additional element. If the board of sup's appoints an interim, it'll be someone they figure will do their bidding, and SSD will likely stop issuing. The next elected sheriff could go either way.


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[Dvrjon]

Interesting. All that went into effect a few months prior to when I first applied. I recall seeing it referred to as a settlement numerous times, and I guess I just incorporated that into my interpretation.


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Some references:

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/Sykes_v._McGinness

Richards v. Prieto is a case challenging the carry license issuing policies in Yolo County. The case was filed in 2009 under the caption Sykes v. McGinness. McGinness was the sheriff of Sacramento county and was compelled by this lawsuit to issue carry licenses for self defense. Therefore the complaint against sheriff McGiness and Sacramento County have been dismissed. The case has been renamed and litigation will continue against Yolo County and Sheriff Prieto.

And,

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=356199

[aztecwarrior76]

https://youtu.be/ziiiIzFnm-c

is this true?

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[faris1984]

https://youtu.be/ziiiIzFnm-c
is this true?

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God I pray for this to become true .If this true , it means this is the start of winning against libs and anti guns.

[Sapperforward]

https://youtu.be/ziiiIzFnm-c
is this true?

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That video is a year old guys.