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  • Gray Peterson
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2005
    • 5817

    Sacramento

    UPDATE: The sheriff now accepts "self-defense" as sufficient Good Cause. At the top of the sheriff's "Concealed Weapons Permit and Application Process" .pdf document (available via: http://www.sacsheriff.com/Pages/Orga.../SIIB/CCW.aspx), is the following:

    Self-defense may be considered good cause for the issuance of a permit, however, each application is unique and the Sheriff retains the ability to deny permit applications where it appears that doing so is in the interest of public safety.

    *****

    Sacramento County CCW Policy, Guidelines and Forms can be found Here

    Special Investigations/Intelligence Bureau
    Concealed Weapons Permit Information
    916.874.5371 Office Phone
    916.874.5858 Fax
    Email ccw@sacsheriff.com

    To get a new CCW Permit within Sacramento County:

    Step 1 - Review the Policies and Procedures for Issuance of a Concealed Weapons Permit within Sacramento County. This document will give you the criteria and information needed for issuance of a CCW. [View Policies and Procedures]

    Step 2 - Download and complete the CCW Application. [Download CCW Application] (Please leave pages 10, 11, 12, 13 & 14 blank. These are completed during your appointment.)
    After you have completed the application, schedule a "New Concealed Weapons Permit Application" appointment via our online appointment system. [Online Appointment System]

    Step 3 - During your "New Concealed Weapons Permit Application" appointment, you will be meeting with a Sheriff's Detective for a face to face interview and to review your application. For this appointment, you will need to bring your completed CCW Application, government issued identification and a check or money order for $20 made payable to "County of Sacramento" for your filing fee. After your application is submitted, it is reviewed by three Command level staff for approval or denial.

    Step 4 - You will receive notification, generally within 30 days, if your application for a Concealed Weapons Permit has been approved or denied. If you are denied, you can review the appeals process below if you want to appeal the board's decision. If your application was approved, you will also receive a Department of Justice (DOJ) LiveScan form and LiveScan instructions. DOJ processes your fingerprints and notifies the Sheriff's Department of your clearance to carry a CCW permit. DOJ charges a fee of approximately $122 for the fingerprinting, criminal history check and firearms eligibility letter. The DOJ clearance usually takes 30-90 days. During this waiting time, its recommended that you take any necessary training requirements. [See Training Requirements]
    Step 5 - You will be notified by the Sheriff's Department via mail when we receive your DOJ clearance. After you receive the notification of clearance, you need to schedule a "Concealed Weapons Permit Issuance" appointment via our online appointment system. [Online Appointment System]

    Step 6 - During your "Concealed Weapons Permit Issuance" appointment, you will need to turn in all of your training requirements, a check or money order for $80 payable to "County of Sacramento" and sign the final permit documents. After this is completed, you will receive your permit in the mail within 2-4 weeks.


    To renew your CCW Permit every two years:

    Step 1 - Schedule a "Renew Concealed Weapons Permit" appointment via our online appointment system. [Online Appointment System]

    Step 2 - During your "Renew Concealed Weapons Permit" appointment, you will need to turn in all of your training requirements, a check or money order for $52 payable to "Department of Justice" and a check or money order for $25 payable to "County of Sacramento" for your renewal fees.



    Overview of training requirements required to obtain or renew a CCW Permit in Sacramento County:

    New CCW Permits - 16-hour training course that including instruction on firearm safety and the law regarding the permissible use of a firearm. Qualify on each gun you want listed on your CCW Permit.*

    CCW Permit Renewals (every 2 years) - Prior to renewal, complete at least a 4-hour legal firearms update refresher course. Qualify on each gun you want listed on your CCW Permit.*

    Annual Qualifications - You must annually qualify with the weapons(s)/type(s) listed on your permit. If you want to add or remove weapons from your permit, a qualification is required all the weapons you want on the permit and you will need to schedule a "Concealed Weapons Permit Modification" appointment via our online appointment system. [Online Appointment System]*

    *Contact any local firearms range or security academy within Sacramento County to complete the training requirements and/or weapons qualifications.



    If you need to modify any information on your CCW Permit:

    If you are moving, you have 10 days after you move to modify your CCW Permit with your new address. To modify your permit or update your address, you will need to schedule a "Concealed Weapons Permit Modification" appointment via our online appointment system. [Online Appointment System]



    Overview of the Application Appeals Process:

    All applicants will receive notice in writing regarding the approval or denial of their application. Applicants who are denied a concealed weapons permit will be advised of the reason for the denial. Applicants may appeal if their application for a permit is denied. All appeals must be submitted in writing to:

    Sacramento County Sheriff’s Department
    Attention: Gun Permits
    711 G Street
    Sacramento, CA 95814

    Written appeals should be specific, clearly outlining the applicant’s rebuttal to the reason stated for denial. Additional information, which may be pertinent to the applicants request for a permit should also be included. Note: Appeals must be received by the Sheriff’s Department no later than (30) thirty days from the date of the notification letter.
    Automated phone system for LiveScan updates
    Originally posted by harbinger007
    One more resource, re: Live Scan. If you don't get the Live Scan results in seven days, you can check the status by calling the automated number at the top of the page at http://ag.ca.gov/fingerprints/contactus.php (916-227-4557). Option 1 explains that letters get entered as displayed on your phone keypad but are repeated back as numbers to be confirmed. I checked my information about 12 hours after having my prints taken (just to see how the system worked), and they reported no status information existed for me. Pretty much as expected.

    Also, when you get your Live Scan number done, your ATI number is written down by the SSD officer at the bottom of the page. One member told me that when his was done the number was written down incorrectly, leaving out some digits. It should be a letter followed by three numbers, three more letters, and then three more numbers. You might want to check for that when having your Live Scan performed.
    Last edited by Paladin; 04-13-2014, 1:11 AM. Reason: added LiveScan Automated Phone System info; added alert symbol since SD=GC
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    harbinger007
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Jan 2009
    • 565

    EDIT: As of December 2010, the links I had posted here are no longer valid. Please refer to current information in the post above.

    As many of us have learned firsthand, the required separate good cause statement for Sacramento just needs to list "self defense" (i.e., "I wish to obtain a permit in order that I may carry a concealed handgun for self defense.")

    As of December 2010, the Sacramento County Sheriff's Department is now scheduling appointments for CCW matters online at http://sacsheriff.checkappointments.com/


    According to reports from a couple of recent applicants, you don't need to list your handgun(s) expected to be carried at the time you apply. You can provide that information when you qualify. See:
    Originally posted by Rugerdaddy
    Amber wrote to me that she doesn't need any guns listed on the original application when you drop it off. I quote her (I'm sure she wouldn't mind):

    "That’s just to fill in if you have an idea of what you plan on carrying. If you’re not sure, leave it blank. I don’t require specific weapon information unless you are approved for the permit. At which time you’re required to take the training course and fire with the weapons to be listed.. Up until then you can leave that section blank if you wish."

    One member had reported that the SSD was going to start charging $25 for modifications beginning 2/1/2011. However, according to a message received from another member on 12/12/2012 this fee is actually $10.

    Edit 10/4/2011: SSD has implemented a policy requiring that the instructor initial off on your qualification certification that they verified the serial numbers of the weapons you qualified with. See http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...&postcount=863
    Last edited by harbinger007; 12-12-2012, 10:25 PM. Reason: Edited modification fee cost 12/12/12.

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    • #3
      MrBrent
      Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 308

      FYI first two links don't work for me.

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      • #4
        harbinger007
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        • Jan 2009
        • 565

        fixed, thanks
        EDIT: Links are no longer valid as of December 2010
        Last edited by harbinger007; 12-19-2010, 9:52 PM.

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        • #5
          harbinger007
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          • Jan 2009
          • 565

          One thing that wasn't clear to me when I got started is if I was supposed to obtain my training before applying. No, wait until you're approved or at least close to expecting to be approved. Reportedly, the training certificate must be less than 90 days old when you go in for your permit after being approved.

          Some sources for CCW training I had checked or heard from others about (in alphabetical order of URLs):

          http://www.advancedsecurityinstitute.com/ Initial: BSIS / CCW 16-Hr Class: $110

          http://casecuritytraining.com/ $90 for 2 day course plus $10 for each addition handgun. $20 for 50-round bags of ammo.

          http://lfiguns.com/ Wesley Lagomarsino has CCW classes for several counties as well as Utah, Oregon, Virginia, etc. Normal fee is $200 but Wes discounts all referrals, Calguns members, NRA members, Military personnel, etc. to $175.

          http://www.resolutesg.com/services/p...d-use-of-force Resolute Security Group, Defensive Pistol and Use of Force class taught by John Souza to meet CCW requirements. Fee is $250.

          http://sacvalley.org/ Sacramento Valley Shooting Center has been offering classes. I believe the cost is $250 and more information should be available when a new page is added to their web site (look for a tab at the top titled "Training") which will probably get uploaded on 2/3/2011. The next training class as of this writing is on 2/19-2/20.

          http://www.universalsecurityacademy.com/index.htm $110 (used to offer $10 discount to CalGuns members, but not any longer per sasc40cal - worth reading for review feedback). $10 is charged for each additional handgun after the first handgun.

          http://www.yankeeshooter.com/ $215 with free annual requalifications.

          If there are others that should be added here, please send me a PM and I'll add it.
          Last edited by harbinger007; 02-02-2011, 1:20 PM. Reason: Added more training options, list is still not complete...

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          • #6
            harbinger007
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            • Jan 2009
            • 565

            To turn in your permit you need to go to the Sheriff's office at 711 G Street. For those not very familiar with downtown Sacramento, here is a link to a Google map:



            The entrance is on the south side of the building, maybe 50 feet or so east of the intersection. Parking in the parking lot across the street (entrance about across from the entrance to the office) is a few bucks. There is also some street parking right across the street. Your entire visit may only last 15 minutes so it won't cost much for parking.

            You're supposedly supposed to bring a second form of ID and a car registration works for that, though they didn't ask for mine.

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            • #7
              harbinger007
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              • Jan 2009
              • 565

              CCWs issued by SSD up until September 2010 or so were restricted and invalid within 1,000 feet of a school zone and their procedures posted online up until December still indicated that CCWs issued followed this policy. However, that policy was changed in practice in October 2010 and the SSD communicated this all existing permit holders via a letter dated October 5th, a copy of which is located in another discussion thread at http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...4&postcount=44 For a good copy of said, letter, please refer to the pdf linked in Gene's post at http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...8&postcount=61.
              Last edited by harbinger007; 12-19-2010, 6:15 PM. Reason: Edited wording to reflect SSD online policy change in December 2010

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              • #8
                harbinger007
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                • Jan 2009
                • 565

                Someone asked me to summarize the costs associated with obtaining a CCW, so I'll list them here:

                $20 due with submission of application (cashier's check or money order) [as of May 2012, personal checks no longer accepted)

                $122 due for LiveScan after receiving approval letter (money order or credit card)

                $90-$175 (or more?) for CCW training by approved instructor (no complete list seems to exist of approved instructors that I'm aware of)

                $80 due after completing above and turning in LiveScan and training certificate/range qualification to Amber (I'm not yet sure what forms of payment are accepted as I'm not that far along myself)
                Last edited by harbinger007; 11-20-2012, 6:21 PM.

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                • #9
                  samonya
                  Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 215

                  Originally posted by harbinger007
                  One thing that wasn't clear to me when I got started is if I was supposed to obtain my training before applying. No, wait until you're approved or at least close to expecting to be approved. Reportedly, the training certificate must be less than 90 days old when you go in for your permit after being approved.

                  Some sources for CCW training I had checked out:

                  http://www.yankeeshooter.com/ $175 with free annual requalifications

                  http://www.advancedsecurityinstitute.com/ Initial: BSIS / CCW 16-Hr Class: $110

                  http://www.universalsecurityacademy.com/index.htm $110 less $10 discount if you mention you want the CalGuns discount. $10 is charged for each additional handgun after the first handgun.

                  http://casecuritytraining.com/ $90 for 2 day course plus $10 for each addition handgun. $20 for 50-round bags of ammo.
                  this is the first time Ive seen this 90 day rule, does anyone have any more info?

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                  • #10
                    avatar0716
                    Junior Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 2

                    I set up an appointment did I have to do that or could I just go there to drop it off.

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                    • #11
                      CSDGuy
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 3763

                      Originally posted by avatar0716
                      I set up an appointment did I have to do that or could I just go there to drop it off.
                      AFAIK, currently you must make an appointment. That may change...

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                      • #12
                        Bret Daniels
                        Junior Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 98

                        Originally posted by harbinger007
                        Someone asked me to summarize the costs associated with obtaining a CCW, so I'll list them here:

                        $20 due with submission of application (check or money order)

                        $122 due for LiveScan after receiving approval letter (money order or credit card)

                        $90-$175 (or more?) for CCW training by approved instructor (no complete list seems to exist of approved instructors that I'm aware of)

                        $80 due after completing above and turning in LiveScan and training certificate/range qualification to Amber (I'm not yet sure what forms of payment are accepted as I'm not that far along myself)
                        So about $500 to exercise your Constitutional right. Wonder if that's what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they said "...shall not be infringed".

                        Seems the requirements are to better protect society (insuring someone that should not get a permit doesn't, making sure the person has some training and knowledge, etc) than the permit holder and therefor the burden should be on the people and not the person.

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                        • #13
                          harbinger007
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 565

                          Originally posted by Bret Daniels
                          So about $500 to exercise your Constitutional right. Wonder if that's what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they said "...shall not be infringed".

                          Seems the requirements are to better protect society (insuring someone that should not get a permit doesn't, making sure the person has some training and knowledge, etc) than the permit holder and therefor the burden should be on the people and not the person.
                          I agree it's too costly, but I do also think the training serves the permit holder well and we probably should make sure we continue to train more than what's required. That's just my personal opinion. About the only other fee that's reasonable in my opinion is the initial $20. All the others are over-priced, IMO.

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                          • #14
                            harbinger007
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 565

                            One more resource, re: Live Scan. If you don't get the Live Scan results in seven days, you can check the status by calling the automated number at the top of the page at http://ag.ca.gov/fingerprints/contactus.php (916-227-4557). Option 1 explains that letters get entered as displayed on your phone keypad but are repeated back as numbers to be confirmed. I checked my information about 12 hours after having my prints taken (just to see how the system worked), and they reported no status information existed for me. Pretty much as expected.

                            Also, when you get your Live Scan number done, your ATI number is written down by the SSD officer at the bottom of the page. One member told me that when his was done the number was written down incorrectly, leaving out some digits. It should be a letter followed by three numbers, three more letters, and then three more numbers. You might want to check for that when having your Live Scan performed.

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                            • #15
                              harbinger007
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 565

                              Originally posted by samonya
                              this is the first time Ive seen this 90 day rule, does anyone have any more info?
                              Please note I did write "reportedly". I don't know if it's fact or not, but I read of it at http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...&postcount=834 and the member it was directed towards later responded in a manner that seemed to imply that he understood the rule to be the same. No further follow-up on this point was made, that I recall.

                              EDIT 1/1/11: See clarification obtained by Wes from Amber, posted at http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...&postcount=209 (training is valid for two years)
                              Last edited by harbinger007; 01-01-2011, 11:45 PM.

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