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[Greg34]

Renewal submitted 4/5/21

Still waiting..............

[carabuser]

Renewal submitted 4/5/21

Still waiting..............

[slixx1320]

For those who's submitted for renewal, were you able to pay online or not given the option?

[Gavelams]

For those who's submitted for renewal, were you able to pay online or not given the option?

[bebeto]

I was able to pay online. The web portal confirms payment accepted. I'm with Greg34 on waiting period. This is a long time for renewal so far but stated pretty clearly on OCSD site. One can assume demand is a big factor now. Coming up on a month Naked.

[Gavelams]

I was able to pay online. The web portal confirms payment accepted. I'm with Greg34 on waiting period. This is a long time for renewal so far but stated pretty clearly on OCSD site. One can assume demand is a big factor now. Coming up on a month Naked.

[MrBones]

Renewal submitted May 2. Still hasn't been assigned to a processor. Sent an email to CCW unit last week and basically was told it's first come, first served, it could be 90-120 days and you will not be able to carry if your current permit expires, which I already knew. Checked again this morning and still nothing. Same goes for another buddy of mine.

[mike_in_ca]

Is anyone waiting for initial or renewal that has applied because of a legitimate criminal action that has happened to you do you have a DR# issued to you or have one or more incident #s ?

Or are you waiting on a renewal based on a good cause that is based on something "might happen" because I do this Hobby or I'm in this area that has a higher crime rate.

Trying to get some answers.

[tanks]

Renewal submitted May 2. Still hasn't been assigned to a processor. Sent an email to CCW unit last week and basically was told it's first come, first served, it could be 90-120 days and you will not be able to carry if your current permit expires, which I already knew. Checked again this morning and still nothing. Same goes for another buddy of mine.

May 2?

I submitted on March 21. 120 days as of today and counting with no action in the meantime.

[tanks]

... Sheriff Barnes runs a fantastic CCW unit.

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When renewal applications take over 120+ days I would not call it "running a fantastic CCW unit". I'll give him kudos for continuing to issue CCW permits, but not necessarily running an efficient unit that services constituents in a timely manner.

Also, OCSD is more restrictive than others in good cause statements as some other counties do not need anything more than "self defense" as a good cause statement.

[mike_in_ca]

When renewal applications take over 120+ days I would not call it "running a fantastic CCW unit". I'll give him kudos for continuing to issue CCW permits, but not necessarily running an efficient unit that services constituents in a timely manner.

Also, OCSD is more restrictive than others in good cause statements as some other counties do not need anything more than "self defense" as a good cause statement.

Yeah they are doing a great job.

Do you have an Investigator or Deputy that responded to your original call for service? Did you reverence your DR# on your renewal?

I posted a on this same page. Nobody really replied so I assume everyone is OK with the service.

[tanks]

Yeah they are doing a great job.

Do you have an Investigator or Deputy that responded to your original call for service? Did you reverence your DR# on your renewal?

I posted a on this same page. Nobody really replied so I assume everyone is OK with the service.

I guess we'll disagree on the "great job". I think you are basing your "great job" on the fact that they are issuing, and not on the process and the timeline of getting the CCW renewed. Others might feel the same.

I have provided everything they require just like the last few times I renewed.

At this point still no one has been assigned to my order, and no action is taken according to the order tracker web site. I have sent an email with my order number, and got the form email response stating that it is taking 90-120 days (mine is over 120 days now), they are processing first come, first served (not true as it seems new orders take priority over renewals) and stop carrying once my permit expires (it has).

Basically saying "Don't bug us, we'll get to you whenever..." That is not what I would call doing a "great job".

I would have no issues if they took 180 days to process as long as one was able to apply 180 days prior, however the web site limits it to 120 days. I own multiple companies among them an engineering firm doing projects. Clients do not get pissed off when we tell them a project would take X days, they get pissed off when it takes X+ days.

[SuperGrover]

I concur, tanks. This is ridiculous. This is a RENEWAL. Unless something showed up on the Live Scan, the renewal should be automatic.

[mike_in_ca]

I guess we'll disagree on the "great job". I think you are basing your "great job" on the fact that they are issuing, and not on the process and the timeline of getting the CCW renewed. Others might feel the same.

I have provided everything they require just like the last few times I renewed.

At this point still no one has been assigned to my order, and no action is taken according to the order tracker web site. I have sent an email with my order number, and got the form email response stating that it is taking 90-120 days (mine is over 120 days now), they are processing first come, first served (not true as it seems new orders take priority over renewals) and stop carrying once my permit expires (it has).

Basically saying "Don't bug us, we'll get to you whenever..." That is not what I would call doing a "great job".

I would have no issues if they took 180 days to process as long as one was able to apply 180 days prior, however the web site limits it to 120 days. I own multiple companies among them an engineering firm doing projects. Clients do not get pissed off when we tell them a project would take X days, they get pissed off when it takes X+ days.

Tanks.... I see your point and agree, it's probably beyond frustrating. When I say I think they are doing a great job... I should clarify, I am referring to the deputies in the CCW Dept and the support staff. I'm sure they feel a bit overwhelmed.

I know they are working their (a $$) off to clear backlog. Staff are coming in on Saturday to get some interviews done.
I 100% agree with you regarding the length of renewals. If it is going to be 180 days they should let you be apply for your renewal sooner.

One of the biggest problem at the center of this and other understaffed areas within the OCSD is the budget. And like many other counties within California the Orange County Board of Supervisors reduced the overall budget back in August (I think around that time in 2020) That basically had the Sheriff's Dept shuffling staff around. And the pandemic wrecked havoc on sales tax revenue.

So I'll revise my statement to day the Deputies and support team at PSD in the CCW Dept are doing great with the workload and stuffing 13 hours worth of work a day into 8 to 10 hours. They will be adding staff as budget allows, where and when I don't know. But I'm pretty certain they have a surplus in the budget to work with..

So The PSD CCW Dept: Could do better than " don't call us we will call you."

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[tanks]

...When I say I think they are doing a great job... I should clarify, I am referring to the deputies in the CCW Dept and the support staff. I'm sure they feel a bit overwhelmed.

I know they are working their (a $$) off to clear backlog. Staff are coming in on Saturday to get some interviews done.
I 100% agree with you regarding the length of renewals. If it is going to be 180 days they should let you be apply for your renewal sooner.
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They would not need to work that hard if OCSD did not require an elaborate good cause statement that needed to be documented and verified and just required "self defense" as good cause. Other counties find "SD" acceptable so it can't be a legal risk.

Sheriff Hutchens required an elaborate good cause to give herself legal cover for issuing a CCW. Barnes does not have to follow suit. It is all a farce anyway in that practically anything one puts down is considered a good cause to issue. However, it is not necessary when bunch of other counties do use just "SD" as good cause. All it does is add more time to processing.