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  • obeygiant
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Oct 2007
    • 4167

    Orange

    Read the last few pages of this thread to get an idea of where Orange stands currently.

    UPDATE (2015 April 05): In light of the Peruta 3-judge panel decision being taken for review en banc, Hutchens has decided to go back to her pre-Peruta restrictive issuance policy. (See http://ocsd.org/about/info/services/ccw and posts on p. 11 and following of this thread.) Thus I ("Paladin") am removing the alert symbol and "TIME TO APPLY!!!" from the title of this thread for now. (end of update)

    UPDATE (2014 April 12): In light of the Peruta decision Sheriff Hutchens has revised her CCW policy and now accepts "self-defense" as sufficient Good Cause. But she may change her policy if Peruta is stayed or withdrawn. Time to apply!

    The Orange County Sheriff’s Department will accept CCW applications which include, in the “Details of Reason for Applicant Desiring a CCW License” (on page 10 of 13 of the California Department of Justice Standard Initial and Renewal Application for License to Carry a Concealed Weapon), that the CCW license is needed for self-defense or personal safety. Applications which include other reasons showing “good cause” for the CCW License as set forth in the Orange County Sheriff’s Department’s Policy 218, License to Carry a Concealed Firearm, will also be accepted.

    If the Peruta v. County of San Diego panel decision is withdrawn by a decision to rehear the case en banc in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, or a stay is issued by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals or the United States Supreme Court, we may require applicants to supplement the “good cause” statement for the CCW License in accord with Orange County Sheriff’s Department’s Policy 218.
    (emphasis and underlining added)
    From: http://ocsd.org/about/info/services/ccw

    End of update.
    Last edited by Paladin; 11-20-2015, 9:48 AM. Reason: updated OP info w/OCSO's new policy info
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    Twystd1
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    • Oct 2009
    • 2692

    OK.. What do I do to get a CCW in the OC?

    Is it a waste of time at this moment? Or is it a good idea to pursue this route? I don't want to throw away my hard earned money and my precious time on something that is impossible at the moment.
    What do you guys think? As I have no clue about the Orange County situation other than it is dam near impossible to get one from our Illustrious Sheriff whatshername.

    What say you fellas?

    Twystd1

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    • #3
      obeygiant
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Oct 2007
      • 4167

      Originally posted by Twystd1
      OK.. What do I do to get a CCW in the OC?

      Is it a waste of time at this moment? Or is it a good idea to pursue this route? I don't want to throw away my hard earned money and my precious time on something that is impossible at the moment.
      What do you guys think? As I have no clue about the Orange County situation other than it is dam near impossible to get one from our Illustrious Sheriff whatshername.

      What say you fellas?

      Twystd1
      Originally posted by wildhawker
      Not yet, but we will be phasing in each county as their acceptable good cause statements are available, and also as the policy compliance portion corrects any deficiencies.
      It's also much easier if you're in the state of california.
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      • #4
        CHS
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        • Jan 2008
        • 11338

        Anyone know if Westminster PD issues CCW's, or must you go directly through the Sheriff?
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        Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
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        • #5
          crackerman
          Senior Member
          • May 2009
          • 2441

          Originally posted by bdsmchs
          Anyone know if Westminster PD issues CCW's, or must you go directly through the Sheriff?
          All Cities in the OC have ceded that power to the Sheriff Hutchens currently.
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          • #6
            dantodd
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2009
            • 9360

            Originally posted by Twystd1
            OK.. What do I do to get a CCW in the OC?

            Is it a waste of time at this moment? Or is it a good idea to pursue this route? I don't want to throw away my hard earned money and my precious time on something that is impossible at the moment.
            What do you guys think? As I have no clue about the Orange County situation other than it is dam near impossible to get one from our Illustrious Sheriff whatshername.

            What say you fellas?

            Twystd1
            If your time is too valuable to "waste" it on applying where you might be turned down this exercise may not be for you. This is a compliance drill and once we move on each county there is every expectation that some sheriffs will be recalcitrant and illegally deny people. If you are worried about this, or the $20 it costs to apply then you might want to wait until those willing to spend the time and money open up the policy so you can get your CCW via their (individually easy, collectively hard) work.
            Coyote Point Armory
            341 Beach Road
            Burlingame CA 94010
            650-315-2210
            http://CoyotePointArmory.com

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            • #7
              Doheny
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Sep 2008
              • 13819

              Originally posted by auxcoastie
              All Cities in the OC have ceded that power to the Sheriff Hutchens currently.
              I'm pretty sure that Irvine issues their own. From their website:

              Concealed Weapon Permits

              If you are interested in obtaining a CCW (Carrying a Concealed Weapon) permit, please contact Sgt. Bill Whalen at (949) 724-7041, or you can email him at bwhalen@ci.irvine.ca.us for further information.
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              • #8
                Doheny
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Sep 2008
                • 13819

                Originally posted by Twystd1
                OK.. What do I do to get a CCW in the OC?

                <snip>

                Twystd1
                I say for now, hang on. It may be a matter of just a few weeks or month until we know much more about the process for each issuing agency.
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                • #9
                  crackerman
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 2441

                  Originally posted by Doheny
                  I'm pretty sure that Irvine issues their own. From their website:

                  Hmm I stand corrected, last time I lived in Irvine and checked, the desk lady said it was the sherriff. About 2 years ago.

                  My latest info was what I posted from the friend who just got his.
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                  • #10
                    Doheny
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 13819

                    Originally posted by auxcoastie
                    Hmm I stand corrected, last time I lived in Irvine and checked, the desk lady said it was the sherriff. About 2 years ago.

                    My latest info was what I posted from the friend who just got his.
                    When I checked, they only issued about four. It would be very interesting as to who/what their could cause was and why only four people in a city can receive a ccw from the PD.
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                    • #11
                      dantodd
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 9360

                      Originally posted by Doheny
                      When I checked, they only issued about four. It would be very interesting as to who/what their could cause was and why only four people in a city can receive a ccw from the PD.
                      It is quite possible that they have kept the number of applicants low by not advertising their process and/or discouraging applicants before they ever apply.
                      Coyote Point Armory
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                      Burlingame CA 94010
                      650-315-2210
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                      • #12
                        John W
                        Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 127

                        This is very exciting. Keep up the good work, I can't wait to submit my app.

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                        • #13
                          Colt
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 1596

                          How do you get that info? Does it name the four?

                          Originally posted by Doheny
                          When I checked, they only issued about four. It would be very interesting as to who/what their could cause was and why only four people in a city can receive a ccw from the PD.

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                          • #14
                            Doheny
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 13819

                            Originally posted by Colt
                            How do you get that info? Does it name the four?
                            I asked the person (I think it was a Sgt.) who was in charge of CCWs and he told me. I didn't go into good cause, etc. No, he did not name the four.

                            However, I think that in a city of 200,000 only having four CCWs seems a bit off. Obviously someone knows somebody, etc.
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                            • #15
                              popndrop
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 2207

                              I live in Irvine, so I called and left a message just a few min ago - so If I have any luck, I'll be sure to let you all know how it goes.

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