San Bernardino

[morrcarr67]

Or registered to your husband/wife if married with marriage certificate on file, if I understand correctly?

You do understand correctly.

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[38Special]

ATM=At The Moment?

Can only carry in the caliber it is DROS'ed as is what I have been told.

Yes, At the moment.

I understood the ATM. My HUH? was for (one is none, two is one.)

[FlyingShooter]

You do understand correctly.

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[38Special]

It should not be a issue. When in doubt reach out to the CCW girls.

[morrcarr67]

You can both have the same gun on your permit.

"I" would put different guns on my and my wife's permit just to make sure we both had a gun to carry without fighting over who gets to carry what.

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[WizardLR]

I understood the ATM. My HUH? was for (one is none, two is one.)

it is an adage about weapons failing... two is one, one is none. I wrote it backwards.

@ Flyingshooter thank you, that's what i wanted to know.

[Notpc]

Correct.
There is no provision for multiple calibers.

I am curious about 38/357 though. I would assume that my SP101 or M&P 340 would be listed as 357.. but would there be any issues carrying 38?
Particularly with the M&P, after putting 10 rounds of 357 through it, I will never do that again, so at some point in the future if I do add it, I would be qualifying and intending to carry with .38.

SP101, I'll shoot 357 out of that all day.

You bring up an interesting point. I qualified with my Ruger LCR 357. During my qualification, I shot .38 special and that is my chosen carry round. They never looked at my ammunition that I recall. My permit has .357 in the Ruger column. Now, heaven forbid I end up needing to use it and get sued, I can say "I didn't really want to hurt the guy, that is why I shot him with a .38". Joking aside, I wonder if this would be a problem in any court proceedings?

[Cokebottle]

You can both have the same gun on your permit.

"I" would put different guns on my and my wife's permit just to make sure we both had a gun to carry without fighting over who gets to carry what.

I really feel that having your EDC shared on both permits is the smartest way to go.
Especially if either of you carry off-body... my wife will frequently leave her purse with me when she uses the restroom. She would not be able to do that if her gun was not listed on my permit.
Likewise, if I need to make a trip to the ER and we aren't near the lockbox in my car, my wife can take my gun without any issues.

[Cokebottle]

it is an adage about weapons failing... two is one, one is none. I wrote it backwards.

I learned that from my Scuba tech-diving instructor.
I always carried three lights and three small blades.
We dove following the rule of 3rds... 1000psi is for the trip out/in/down, 1000psi is for the trip back, and 1000psi belongs to your buddy.

[Cokebottle]

You bring up an interesting point. I qualified with my Ruger LCR 357. During my qualification, I shot .38 special and that is my chosen carry round. They never looked at my ammunition that I recall. My permit has .357 in the Ruger column. Now, heaven forbid I end up needing to use it and get sued, I can say "I didn't really want to hurt the guy, that is why I shot him with a .38". Joking aside, I wonder if this would be a problem in any court proceedings?

It would not be an issue as far as the defensive shooting itself.
The potential issue would be whether or not the permit itself was valid at the time you were carrying, which would open up the potential for a misdemeanor charge...
...or if convicted of a "bad shoot", a potential felony charge since you were carrying without a valid permit while in the process of committing another crime, but if you are convicted of a bad shoot, one more felony charge for carrying without a valid permit is going to be the least of your worries.

Always keep in mind that, in the criminal trial, the only facts that will change a good shoot to a bad shoot are those surrounding the appropriateness of the use of deadly force. Whether or not you were carrying legally has no bearing on that.

[morrcarr67]

I really feel that having your EDC shared on both permits is the smartest way to go.
Especially if either of you carry off-body... my wife will frequently leave her purse with me when she uses the restroom. She would not be able to do that if her gun was not listed on my permit.
Likewise, if I need to make a trip to the ER and we aren't near the lockbox in my car, my wife can take my gun without any issues.

How can two people have the same EDC?

The only way I see that is if you're with the other person 24/7. Otherwise it's really only one person's EDC. The other person will have a different EDC.

So if you're saying that you share two guns and the third is only on one person's permit.

That means your limiting yourself to really only two guns on your permit. No thanks.

As for the what about this or what about that. In my training class on of the big things emphasized was planning ahead. That's what I do.

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[Cokebottle]

How can two people have the same EDC?

The only way I see that is if you're with the other person 24/7. Otherwise it's really only one person's EDC. The other person will have a different EDC.

Gun 1 my EDC
Gun 2 her EDC
Gun 3 my .45 cal Glock that I rarely carry

So if you're saying that you share two guns and the third is only on one person's permit.

Correct.

[Notpc]

It would not be an issue as far as the defensive shooting itself.
The potential issue would be whether or not the permit itself was valid at the time you were carrying, which would open up the potential for a misdemeanor charge...
...or if convicted of a "bad shoot", a potential felony charge since you were carrying without a valid permit while in the process of committing another crime, but if you are convicted of a bad shoot, one more felony charge for carrying without a valid permit is going to be the least of your worries.

Always keep in mind that, in the criminal trial, the only facts that will change a good shoot to a bad shoot are those surrounding the appropriateness of the use of deadly force. Whether or not you were carrying legally has no bearing on that.

Well actually, it is the same caliber, just one is hotter than the other (.357 shorts). I will ask the next renewal. I still don't see any point swapping to .357 in the little snubbie. I will stick to my 38's.

[Chewy65]

The caliber of a firearm is determined by the maximum ammo it is designed to use. It may or may not also accept alternate ammunition. For example, a shotgun with a barrel chambered for 3" shotshells will also accept 2.5" shells, but not the other way around.

[Notpc]

The caliber of a firearm is determined by the maximum ammo it is designed to use. It may or may not also accept alternate ammunition. For example, a shotgun with a barrel chambered for 3" shotshells will also accept 2.5" shells, but not the other way around.

The discussion was whether or not it was legal to carry .38 special in my EDC instead of .357, if my permit says .357.