San Bernardino

[Cokebottle]

Great then. Thanks ! Curious about employment history. Mine is't the best, 25+ jobs in last 5 years, during that time i've established a home business and now been at it with that for 2 years.

Will they use the employers as a point of reference? Also who will they contact for reference, i've heard they need to contact 3 people not sure if that employers of references you give them.

How the history goes is unknown.
They do send a letter to your current employer. It's just a character reference thing. Make sure that he (or you) do NOT check the "CCW Required" box... the permit is not valid FOR employment. It is valid for you to carry while working, but they don't want you using the permit to be an armed guard.

They do a neighborhood check... they no longer ask for personal references. They will chat with a couple of your neighbors.. it's more a "Do you REALLY live there?" kind of thing... a lot of people living in LA have cabins in the mountains and try to use them. #1 reason for denial in SB is people not being valid residents of the county.

On the speeding tickets... LIST THEM!
The application and interview are more an honesty check than anything. It is better to admit to something that they don't know about than to try to hide something that they MAY know about.
They want you to inform them of ALL interactions with LE... not just tickets... and they WILL know about your tickets even though they aren't on your DMV report.

The ticket for 100+ within the last 5 years *may* be a problem as it could be used to show a recent-history pattern of casual disregard for the law.

Apply.
Of course, apply... the worst they can do is say "no", and if there is anything during the interview or in their pre-investigation that would disqualify you, they won't bother to send you to livescan or take your money orders, so it won't cost you more than a day off work.

Postal Money Orders only

[38Special]

For my driving record, i've had 0 DUI's & 3 speeding tickets in pasts 5 years (one ticket was going over 100). But none of the tickets are on my record, I've managed to get them off. So i'm not even sure if I should list them.

You need to list them. They will know about them when they run your DMV.

The ticket for 100+ within the last 5 years *may* be a problem as it could be used to show a recent-history pattern of casual disregard for the law.

You think so??!!!!

[BigGuns!]

They do want 10 years of employment records. I'm not sure how much the long list of employers will affect it.

As for your good cause you can use things like the San Bernardino terrorist attach, political unease, change in laws that will put criminals back on the street sooner. You might also be able to use your business if you carry a lot of cash or a lot of valuable inventory.

Go down to the DMV and get a 10 year pull on your license. That one may show different things than the regular report. If the 10 year report shows more stuff click on my username and then the option to find all threads started by me. You'll find one on how to clean up your driving record.

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I hope the job history won't effect it. At the end of the day i'm sure that having a business will play a part.

For the DMV record, I already checked that. I got a full report and shows nothing.

[BigGuns!]

How the history goes is unknown.
They do send a letter to your current employer. It's just a character reference thing. Make sure that he (or you) do NOT check the "CCW Required" box... the permit is not valid FOR employment. It is valid for you to carry while working, but they don't want you using the permit to be an armed guard.

They do a neighborhood check... they no longer ask for personal references. They will chat with a couple of your neighbors.. it's more a "Do you REALLY live there?" kind of thing... a lot of people living in LA have cabins in the mountains and try to use them. #1 reason for denial in SB is people not being valid residents of the county.

On the speeding tickets... LIST THEM!
The application and interview are more an honesty check than anything. It is better to admit to something that they don't know about than to try to hide something that they MAY know about.
They want you to inform them of ALL interactions with LE... not just tickets... and they WILL know about your tickets even though they aren't on your DMV report.

The ticket for 100+ within the last 5 years *may* be a problem as it could be used to show a recent-history pattern of casual disregard for the law.

Apply.
Of course, apply... the worst they can do is say "no", and if there is anything during the interview or in their pre-investigation that would disqualify you, they won't bother to send you to livescan or take your money orders, so it won't cost you more than a day off work.

Postal Money Orders only

Ah I see, thanks for clarifying the employer part. Is that what they basically did with you? (sent letters to your employers). Curious how mine is going to go since i'm self employed.

Ok then I'm gonna list all the tickets. I wasn't really trying to hide them, I was curious since they are off my record that's why (thought there was no need to do that, but I guess not). The 100+ was about 3 years go, so I hope time will offset that a bit.

I may just do a check instead of money orders though. Thanks !

[morrcarr67]

Ah I see, thanks for clarifying the employer part. Is that what they basically did with you? (sent letters to your employers). Curious how mine is going to go since i'm self employed.

Ok then I'm gonna list all the tickets. I wasn't really trying to hide them, I was curious since they are off my record that's why (thought there was no need to do that, but I guess not). The 100+ was about 3 years go, so I hope time will offset that a bit.

I may just do a check instead of money orders though. Thanks !

I believe it is listed that they only accept US Postal Money Orders. If it isn't listed I can attest to the fact that they are telling everyone that they are only accepting USPS MO's.

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[38Special]

Ah I see, thanks for clarifying the employer part. Is that what they basically did with you? (sent letters to your employers). Curious how mine is going to go since i'm self employed.

Ok then I'm gonna list all the tickets. I wasn't really trying to hide them, I was curious since they are off my record that's why (thought there was no need to do that, but I guess not). The 100+ was about 3 years go, so I hope time will offset that a bit.

I may just do a check instead of money orders though. Thanks !

I am self employed and they never contacted me about me....
As for a check, NO, they only take USPS money orders.

I believe it is listed that they only accept US Postal Money Orders. If it isn't listed I can attest to the fact that they are telling everyone that they are only accepting USPS MO's.

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Correct they only take USPS money orders.

[WarBoyNux]

How the history goes is unknown.
They do send a letter to your current employer. It's just a character reference thing. Make sure that he (or you) do NOT check the "CCW Required" box... the permit is not valid FOR employment. It is valid for you to carry while working, but they don't want you using the permit to be an armed guard.

They do a neighborhood check... they no longer ask for personal references. They will chat with a couple of your neighbors.. it's more a "Do you REALLY live there?" kind of thing... a lot of people living in LA have cabins in the mountains and try to use them. #1 reason for denial in SB is people not being valid residents of the county.

On the speeding tickets... LIST THEM!
The application and interview are more an honesty check than anything. It is better to admit to something that they don't know about than to try to hide something that they MAY know about.
They want you to inform them of ALL interactions with LE... not just tickets... and they WILL know about your tickets even though they aren't on your DMV report.

The ticket for 100+ within the last 5 years *may* be a problem as it could be used to show a recent-history pattern of casual disregard for the law.

Apply.
Of course, apply... the worst they can do is say "no", and if there is anything during the interview or in their pre-investigation that would disqualify you, they won't bother to send you to livescan or take your money orders, so it won't cost you more than a day off work.

Postal Money Orders only

What if you are a guard armed/unarmed, can you still carry a ccw during work if the employer approve it? Not for work, but while at work?

I ask because I am going through guard training right now.

[Old Marine]

Just picked up my permit.

Less than 47 weeks, start to finish!

[Old Marine]

That's true, but San Bernardino has this reputation of being shall issue, but they put these barriers in front of people and expect applicants to jump through ridiculous hoops that are in fact illegal.

You can't get a permit unless you live in the county for at least one year.

You have to get three letters of reference from friends.

You have to give four names that they can interview.

I'll just bet that you probably don't stand a snowballs chance in hell of getting one if you've been convicted of CCWing without a permission slip.

They have only one background investigator that interviews you to see if you measure up, and they still decide if you meet their standards of good cause and good moral character.

And now I understand that they have ONE HUNDRED QUESTIONS that you must answer before they interview you. I can only imagine how a person would be treated if they leave something out as a matter of over sight and not because the applicant was attempting to deceive.

If you can get through the Labyrinth of tasks that you must perform in the SBSO Dog and Pony show, and you agree to the Sheriff's best imitation of the Ten Commandments as he attempts to mimic God, and bestows his mercy and grace on you as he places his seal on you, then great, I'm happy for you. But from where I stand, he's not much better than others.

So much wrong info here

[M3Inline6]

So much wrong info here

Definitely.....at least where the current process is concerned.


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[Mike350GT]

to be fair, he posted that back in 2011.

[Cokebottle]

What if you are a guard armed/unarmed, can you still carry a ccw during work if the employer approve it? Not for work, but while at work?

I ask because I am going through guard training right now.

That would be a question for Sarah or your interviewer.

The permit is clearly marked "Not valid for employment"

If carrying is not a FUNCTION of your job, then it is not a problem.
You're in a grey area, carrying on a personal CCW while employed as an unarmed guard... given that our responsibilities when carrying include protection of ourself and, at our discretion, others around us.

It would be pretty hard to support the claim that you are an unarmed guard, but pulled a gun on someone who attacked you after shoplifting.

[Cokebottle]

So much wrong info here

That post was from 2011, when Rod Hoops was running the show.

That information WAS accurate at that time.

[Jeepergeo]

First, thanks for helping man.

So since nothing happened in which I had to file reports, so mainly I want it for self defense. So just to elaborate more on the self defense part would be acceptable?

For my driving record, i've had 0 DUI's & 3 speeding tickets in pasts 5 years (one ticket was going over 100). But none of the tickets are on my record, I've managed to get them off. So i'm not even sure if I should list them.

For my credit, I have delinquent payments and bad track due to life going sideways at that time.

Ah, list them all. They don't ask what's on your record, they ask about tickets etc. And don't think for a moment that your record has been purged clean.

I'd bet dollars go donuts the 100+mph ticket will be a problem...but you won't now until you apply and go through the process.

[BigGuns!]

I believe it is listed that they only accept US Postal Money Orders. If it isn't listed I can attest to the fact that they are telling everyone that they are only accepting USPS MO's.

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I actually just looked it up. You're right, that's what they only accept