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  • Albs
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 2158

    Originally posted by Bnzapilot
    So, is there a "safe" trigger pull they are looking for or a benchmark like 4 or 4.5 that would be considered "safe" to sign off on?
    There is no magic number, it just depends on your firearm.

    For example, one of the guys firearm was tested at 2lb and stock is 4.5lb. Instructor told him he couldn't qualify it.
    "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
    - Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787

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    • Bnzapilot
      Member
      • Jan 2016
      • 134

      I know you don't know for sure, of course, but do you think something between 4 and 4.5 for a CZ P-01 would pass?

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      • Albs
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2014
        • 2158

        Originally posted by Bnzapilot
        I know you don't know for sure, of course, but do you think something between 4 and 4.5 for a CZ P-01 would pass?
        It's up to your instructor, some don't care and some do.
        "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
        - Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787

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        • Doheny
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Sep 2008
          • 13819

          Originally posted by Bnzapilot
          I know you don't know for sure, of course, but do you think something between 4 and 4.5 for a CZ P-01 would pass?

          Back in the day OCSD used to measure trigger pull and they required a minimum of four pounds. Nowadays they leave the inspection up to your instructors and as mentioned, some (most) don't even look at your guns. If you're really concerned about it, go with an instructor that doesn't check your guns. They're the norm, rather than the exception.
          Sent from Free America

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          • Chewy65
            Calguns Addict
            • Dec 2013
            • 5026

            The other day I was reading a shooting team report on a accidental discharge by a LEO and one of the first things looked at was the mechanical aspects of the service weapon and the pounds of trigger pull.

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            • Browneye
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2013
              • 746

              Originally posted by Dvrjon
              Carry whatever gun you have that has your absolute confidence for whatever reason. You must know it will go bang every time and accurately deliver a killing blow. But if you hesitate because of what might happen in a court in six months, there is a very good chance you will be dead and won't have to worry about the lawyers.

              Best.
              This. The rest is conjecture on conjecture, that is all.
              1911 Shooter

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              • Bnzapilot
                Member
                • Jan 2016
                • 134

                Thanks for the input Guys. I just don't want to spend a ton of money on a gun that won't qualify. I am sure my CZ P-01 will be awesome when David at CGW gets through with it but this is the gun I want to carry. I am considering telling him where I want the trigger pull set but I'm not sure where it should be yet.

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                • 1Fastrider
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 1294

                  Sent another email on 3/16 and the lady who's been helping/responding said she was able to get DOJ to fax the results to her. She asked for my training cert which I scanned and emailed to her and I have a pickup appointment on Monday!

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                  • Browneye
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 746

                    Originally posted by 1Fastrider
                    Sent another email on 3/16 and the lady who's been helping/responding said she was able to get DOJ to fax the results to her. She asked for my training cert which I scanned and emailed to her and I have a pickup appointment on Monday!

                    You're welcome.
                    1911 Shooter

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                    • Pharoahs
                      Member
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 439

                      I lost about $500 in vegas this weekend going to hold off on training till next month even though I received conditional approval. sad face.

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                      • 1Fastrider
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 1294

                        Got it and carrying. Nice to at least have that part behind me. Good luck to everyone else

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                        • GlockN'Roll
                          Veteran Member
                          • May 2015
                          • 3659

                          Originally posted by 1Fastrider

                          Got it and carrying.

                          Nice to at least have that part behind me.

                          Good luck to everyone else
                          Congrats!

                          Real Californian...

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                          • Albs
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2014
                            • 2158

                            Originally posted by 1Fastrider
                            Got it and carrying. Nice to at least have that part behind me. Good luck to everyone else


                            Grats
                            "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
                            - Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787

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                            • GregsCCW
                              Member
                              • Mar 2015
                              • 233

                              Originally posted by socalgio
                              Excuse my lack of knowledge, but is there a thread here on all the information I need to apply for a CCW in general. I live in Orange County as well.

                              Like what are the requirements and stuff like that. I just purchased a gun, awaiting my 10-day period. So I would like to eventually apply for one, once I have some experience.

                              27 pages is a ton to read lol
                              My experirence started in September 2015 and I picked up my permit in January 2016. So based on then, here is what the basics are as I recall...

                              Most instructions are on the OCSD website

                              I'm not going to tell you how to write your good cause statement, but self defense alone doesn't work as of right now so you need to articulate why you are at increased risk and why you need to carry a gun because of those risks. OCSD policy 218 describes the good cause requirement and is on the OCSD website.

                              Your interview will consist of you turning in your application to OCSD staff at the professional standards division lobby. You will be photographed and a thumb print will be taken. The interview was a review of each question on the application and then I signed confirming my answers, anything on there that is marked yes, they will want an explanation. The interview was somewhat quick, I signed everything and was given a sheet of paper with instructions to get fingerprints done, so you download the fingerprint form from the OCSD website and take it to a livescan business or police dept that does it, most community colleges do it at their PDs.

                              I did my livescan at a private facility and it cost a little over $100

                              There is also a residence check done after the interview where a deputy in an unmarked car visits your residence and possibly talks to neighbors, and they don't necessarily say why, only ask if you live there.

                              Then I waited for a little over 3 months and finally got a call that my background was done and my packet containing my application and completed background info was being sent to the Lieutenant for approval. If you are conditionally approved you will recieve an email from the CCW unit with a PDF letter attached and instructions to get training done at an OCSD approved facility, and a list is provided. Most run from 175-200 dollars and take two days to complete, you also have to buy ammo for your weapon(s) you are qualifying and in my case I brought 100 rounds each and it was enough, but some places do more shooting than others and you may need more ammo.

                              After training, you are issued a certificate of completion by the trainer. Fax or email a scan of it to the CCW unit with your serial numbers on it, and after I did this I waited another ... week or so and then I received a final pick up date, I think it's called a final interview, but it's really just going down and picking up your card which is like a drivers license in appearance with your photo, thumbprint on the back, weapons and their serial numbers, so unlike some other counties we can easily fit the permit in our wallets. It costs about $100 for the permit that you must pay to OCSD when you pick it up. You are then to go eat nachos.

                              One last thing about your gun(s) that you will use for the OC permit, they have a policy about not modifying the weapon, it has to be stock in terms of trigger, and removing of safety devices like loaded chamber indicator or the safety etc.

                              Good luck
                              Last edited by GregsCCW; 03-27-2016, 2:09 PM.
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                              • DDM4
                                Junior Member
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 65

                                Wow Greg, you really went over and above for the newbie!
                                SoCalliope - you owe that guy a thank you for saving you 27 Pages worth of reading

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