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[Paladin]

I have property in Malibu, but I’m assuming there’s no “permanent resident” requirement to participate in a town hall meeting. I’ll see if I can join.

AV is big on "transparency." Post a question saying something like "Why isn't what qualifies as sufficient GC transparent on the LASD CCW webpage the way it is on San Diego Co. sheriff's department website?" Scroll just past halfway down at: https://www.sdsheriff.net/licensing/ccw.html

[seaweedsoyboy]

as of to day I had my phone interview with the LASD and will have my face to face interview in a few weeks

Would you be willing to detail what went on in the phone interview? For example, the questions they asked you, the general demeanor of the interviewer, who conducted the interview, and if there was anything else that stood out to you?

Likewise looking forward to an update when you have your in-person interview.

Thanks!

[Squirly]

Perfect storm...

[Big Jake]

[seaweedsoyboy]

Also, if anyone can provide some insight re. Section 2, question 8, "List all traffic violations (moving violations only) and motor vehicle accidents you have had in the last five years.":

The only incident I have in mind relevant to the question is a speeding violation I received in Colorado in 2017, a little over three years and two months ago. At the time, I had moved out of California for school, was a resident of the state in which I was attending school and had a CCW issued from said state.

Long story short, I was pulled over by an officer in Colorado for speeding x mi/hr over the limit and handed him my license and carry permit upon his approaching my window. I informed him I was carrying a firearm and that it was holstered at my 12 o'clock. There was a brief pause while he read my driver's license before he looked up and said: "Oh dude you're fine, there's no duty to inform in Colorado but I appreciate it" while handing my carry permit back to me. He went back to his cruiser with my driver's license to run my info before returning and saying something along the lines of "So I clocked you going x mi/hr over the limit which would earn you some points on your license, but since you were really honest with me and everything I'm just going to write you up for going x - y so your license doesn't get dinged. Just be sure to go pay this online when you get home and drive a little safer."

I have run driving record searches with both the CA DMV and the DMV of the state I had a driver's license issued from at the time of the stop under both my California DL number and the DL number from that state and both have come up completely clean. The Colorado DMV does not have a centralized database, and as such does not have the option to perform an online search for traffic citations. Since the DMV in the county where the citation was issued has the only record of the citation, I have not been able to access any record of the incident, and I am unable to locate the information the standard application requests (citation number, issuing agency, etc.). Can anyone advise as to how I should go about recovering this information or, if not, including in the application an explanation as to why it is being omitted?

tl;dr: Got cited for a minor speeding infraction in a different state at a time I was not a CA resident and cannot recover the relevant information to complete the section asking about traffic violations in the past 5 years.

[fluffygunguy]

Today AV had another live stream. He was asked if a freedom information act request needs to be made to get the number of CCW that have been issued since him taking office. He said no that the person just needs to call the office of the undersheriff and they will provide that information as he did not have those numbers with him at that moment. I'm in contact with the person who asked that question and he has submitted that question to LASD and is waiting for a response.

Everyone here is under the impression that lasd doesn't issue like prior Sheriff's but I know that's not the case because I know he has issued some permits dispite not being shall issue. Also the last numbers of CCW permits being issued was released in 2017 under then, Sheriff McDonnell. No CCW numbers have been released yet under Sheriff Alex Villanueva.

[pacrat]

AV is big on "transparency." Post a question saying something like "Why isn't what qualifies as sufficient GC transparent on the LASD CCW webpage the way it is on San Diego Co. sheriff's department website?[/I]" Scroll just past halfway down at: https://www.sdsheriff.net/licensing/ccw.html

Sorry had to laugh out loud at the first sentence of above quote. EVERY POLITICAL MONKEY claims to be big on TRANSPARENCY.

AV is anything but transparent. And has been fighting tooth and nail to keep bad cops records sealed. Even after passage of the law requiring them be released on request.

[Paladin]

Today AV had another live stream. He was asked if a freedom information act request needs to be made to get the number of CCW that have been issued since him taking office. He said no that the person just needs to call the office of the undersheriff and they will provide that information as he did not have those numbers with him at that moment. I'm in contact with the person who asked that question and he has submitted that question to LASD and is waiting for a response.

Ask AV to put on his CCW webpage the total number of issued 2-year CCWs, like SD Co Sheriff Gore does (updated monthly).

Everyone here is under the impression that lasd doesn't issue like prior Sheriff's but I know that's not the case because I know he has issued some permits dispite not being shall issue.

McDonnell issued CCWs. IIRC, he had ~400 issued when audited by the CA State Auditor, so let's not set up a straw man. McDonnell's problem was being arbitrary in issuing CCWs (vs following his own CCW policy). If AV just follows McDonnell's extremely restrictive (Dark Red) GC policy and actually issue or deny per it, he'll issue more CCWs than McDonnell did. With a county pop. of 10M, AV might be able to fulfill his 400% increase promise that way, without even changing McDonnell's GC standard by going to Light Red!

Not only does the CA CCW GC map use 5 colors, not just 2 (e.g., not just Shall Issue vs No Issue), but I've broken those 5 colors down into 15 categories of GC in post #31 at: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1482924 The question is rarely No Issue vs. "virtual Shall Issue" (SD = GC). It's almost always a question of how restrictive are the GC requirements and their burden of proof.

Even Gore in SD Co who went from ~400 CCWs to >4,000 in ~2 years doesn't accept mere "Self Defense" as a sufficient GC statement. Yet you'll rarely hear of someone claiming they've been denied for insufficient GC. (When they do claim that, remember they might just be saying that because they don't want to admit they got denied for lack of Good Moral Character and having to explain why. )

[Paladin]

I went to the LASD FB page to watch today's town hall and saw AV had one yesterday (Wed, the 15th).

https://www.facebook.com/LosAngelesCountySheriffsDepartment/videos/560488921298127/

~10 min in he talks about CCWs yet again! (Shows there is significant interest in CCWs by audience.) This time he says "I've wanted to increase capacity by at least 400%" That's a change for the better! Every time before this he's said he'd increase issuance "by 400%", making it seem like he's placed that as a ceiling on the total number of 2-year CCWs (i.e., the maximum # of CCWs he wants to issue). By saying "by at least 400%" that makes that number a floor! (I.e., the minimum # of CCWs he wants to issue.)

Some other quotes from AV: "I'm a firm supporter of the 2nd Amendment right to arm yourself. However, this issue of arming you in public it's a little dicey-er, particularly in the densely populated LA county area."

"Give me a reason why, a good reason why, and you'll have your CCW" assuming you pass the background check, no felony conviction, no mental conditions, you pass the training, etc.

At the end of the video, AV mentions how he and the BoSs have to answer to the voters. IOW, in this fight between the BoS and himself, AV acknowledges who he answers to -- the voters of LA Co. The more they cry out for liberalization of CCWs, the more likely he's to heed their requests.

So, all in all, this is more good news. But at this point, it is all just words. I hope that most of those CGNers who've said over the past month (since AV first brought up CCWs), that they'll apply do so that we can find out if his words reflect an actual change in practice on his part.

I look forward to reviewing today's Topanga FB/IG town hall.

Anyone in Malibu or Lost Hills?

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...00&oe=5F2DAAAF

[Paladin]

He says their CCW Info website "is currently being updated", but doesn't say when update will be online.

LA Co people should monitor his CCW webpage for revisions, esp the date of the linked "CCW Licensing Policy" (current version is dated "04/16/19") and "LASD CCW Policy". Why? Aren't those "just words" like what he says at the town halls? Yeah, they're "just words," but these words have legal significance. They're his public, published CCW policy and violating them (unlike something he says at a town hall) can get him into legal trouble (like what happened with McDonnell and the CA State Auditor).

https://lasd.org/ccw_info.html

[Paladin]

Sheriff Villanueva and Captain Richard Mejia
City of Commerce online town hall
Thursday July 23rd
2:00 to 4:00 pm
register at: https://bit.ly/2VVAujr

https://www.facebook.com/EastLosAngelesSheriffsStation/photos/a.432573236778702/3120376827998316/?type=3&theater

Be sure to ask what sort of risks will pass AV's Good Cause standard?

Ask when will the LASD CCW webpage and linked documents get updated/revised?

Ask when will LASD switch over to an online application process (to speed things up)?

[LoadedM333]

[demisx]

What a shocker. The only realistic way to get your CCW in LA county is to elect a pro-2A sheriff like Bob Lindsey. The current sherif Villanueva is a total an anti-gun nut and a true believer that guns in hands of law abiding citizens cause violence and carrying is a privilege of LEOs. Sad, but it is what it is. Save your $10.

[Paladin]

Sheriff Villanueva and Captain Richard Mejia
City of Commerce online town hall
Thursday July 23rd
2:00 to 4:00 pm
register at: https://bit.ly/2VVAujr

https://www.facebook.com/EastLosAngelesSheriffsStation/photos/a.432573236778702/3120376827998316/?type=3&theater

Be sure to ask what sort of risks will pass AV's Good Cause standard?

Ask when will the LASD CCW webpage and linked documents get updated/revised?

Ask when will LASD switch over to an online application process (to speed things up)?

Did anyone attend this video town hall? If so, did AV say anything re. CCWs? Anyone have a link to a video of this town hall?

[Paladin]

First off, welcome newbie!

I see you just joined this month and this is your first post....

Sorry to hear about your denial. Hopefully the loss of $10 will hurt more symbolically than financially.

Hopefully, others with "Light Red" GCs will apply and post how they do.

Of course, if you can't afford to lose $10 without batting an eye, you should focus on improving your financial situation first....