Los Angeles

[Stevo818]

What matters most is your Good Cause. Read through at least the first 3 posts at: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1482924 and post #31. If you have Light Red level of GC and can prove it, go for it. No guarantees, of course. IIRC, it only costs $10 to get a GC decision.

[Big Jake]

What matters most is your Good Cause. Read through at least the first 3 posts at: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1482924 and post #31. If you have Light Red level of GC and can prove it, go for it. No guarantees, of course. IIRC, it only costs $10 to get a GC decision.

What actually matters most is the fact that LASD will not issue to regular people. I am waiting to eat that crow as it simply won't happen!

[Paladin]

I believe my GC is most definitely light red. I started filling out the forms but noticed a lot of the forms require you to fill them out in the presence of an officer/official. Including the GC section.

Is that how it’s done or should the whole form be filled out so that they can assess the GC before moving forward (or not)

Thank you Mr Paladin.

Since I've never applied with LASD (I'm in the SFBA), I've asked a CGNer who has to answer your Q.

[Paladin]

What actually matters most is the fact that LASD will not issue to regular people. I am waiting to eat that crow as it simply won't happen!

It's pretty sad you're using the Duke's image while doing nothing but naysaying and acting like a little yapping dog on the side of the road. I'd think, at the very least, you'd have something, anything, better to do than spend your time & effort doing that. But I guess not....

[Kestryll]

So assuming Sheriff AV actually does come through with more permits and assuming I decide to apply does L.A. County have limitations on the firearms you put on your permit?

Specifically does it have to be stock or can you have a modded frame or conversion barrel in a gun listed on a CCW?

[Paladin]

So assuming Sheriff AV actually does come through with more permits and assuming I decide to apply does L.A. County have limitations on the firearms you put on your permit?

Specifically does it have to be stock or can you have a modded frame or conversion barrel in a gun listed on a CCW?

I asked a CGNer who has experience w/LASD under AV to answer you.

Main thing is to make sure you've got Dark Red or Light Red GC. See post #31 at: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1482924

[CCWFacts]

I believe my GC is most definitely light red. I started filling out the forms but noticed a lot of the forms require you to fill them out in the presence of an officer/official. Including the GC section.

Is that how it’s done or should the whole form be filled out so that they can assess the GC before moving forward (or not)

That's not accurate. Fill in everything, including the GC section AND any supporting GC documents, and mail it in with a $10 check. They will decide based on that. I think there's a signature section that must be signed during the interview, but I think you should sign it before you mail it in, and you can sign it again during the interview if you need to. I know, it's confusing and unclear.

Specifically does it have to be stock or can you have a modded frame or conversion barrel in a gun listed on a CCW?

Their policy says nothing about that, but... remember, it's their discretion, and everything about how they perceive you will matter. You want to look like a very reasonable, normal person. My personal opinion is that the fewer modifications the better, and it should be a gun that's well suited for this purpose. A highly modified competition gun or a S&W 460 makes no sense for CCW. A plain vanilla Glock 19 does. If you were them, how would those decisions look to you? If I were them and someone came in with this:



I would think, "seriously, what's this guy's mindset? why does he want to do this?"

BTW the form doesn't ask anywhere if the gun is modified, it only asks for make, model, serial number and caliber, so your mods (other than caliber swaps) won't show up, but ... think about how things are going to be perceived and realize that, unfortunately, they can say no for any reason or no reason.

None of this would matter if we were shall-issue, but we are not.

[Stevo818]

That's not accurate. Fill in everything, including the GC section AND any supporting GC documents, and mail it in with a $10 check. They will decide based on that. I think there's a signature section that must be signed during the interview, but I think you should sign it before you mail it in, and you can sign it again during the interview if you need to. I know, it's confusing and unclear.



Their policy says nothing about that, but... remember, it's their discretion, and everything about how they perceive you will matter. You want to look like a very reasonable, normal person. My personal opinion is that the fewer modifications the better, and it should be a gun that's well suited for this purpose. A highly modified competition gun or a S&W 460 makes no sense for CCW. A plain vanilla Glock 19 does. If you were them, how would those decisions look to you? If I were them and someone came in with this:



I would think, "seriously, what's this guy's mindset? why does he want to do this?"

BTW the form doesn't ask anywhere if the gun is modified, it only asks for make, model, serial number and caliber, so your mods (other than caliber swaps) won't show up, but ... think about how things are going to be perceived and realize that, unfortunately, they can say no for any reason or no reason.

None of this would matter if we were shall-issue, but we are not.

Thank you, that makes sense re:the application


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[Kestryll]

BTW the form doesn't ask anywhere if the gun is modified, it only asks for make, model, serial number and caliber, so your mods (other than caliber swaps) won't show up,

And there in lies my concern.

I won a S&W Shield in .40 S&W a few years ago and not having any real use for .40 cal I swapped out the LCI so I could use a drop in 9mm conversion barrel.

It say .40S&W on it's birth certificate but it's a post-op 9mm and I'm wondering if that would prevent listing it on a CCW.

[CCWFacts]

And there in lies my concern.

I won a S&W Shield in .40 S&W a few years ago and not having any real use for .40 cal I swapped out the LCI so I could use a drop in 9mm conversion barrel.

It say .40S&W on it's birth certificate but it's a post-op 9mm and I'm wondering if that would prevent listing it on a CCW.

It shouldn't have any impact, although it doesn't exactly fit the paperwork. If I were in that situation, my #1 choice would be to restore it to factory condition and carry it that way, or use some other gun that's in a factory configuration. My #2 choice would be to put on the form, where it says caliber, "40 / 9mm" and verbally explain it if anyone asks. This isn't a bad change because it's not like you're putting on a 3lbs trigger or disabling some safety feature or something else that's imprudent and unreasonable on a carry gun.

I don't think any of this will matter. I think the worst thing would be putting down guns that are obviously unsuited to CCW, like a S&W 500, or an AR15 pistol (if someone has one that is legally configured), or just something totally weird.

Edit: I just noticed, you removed the LCI, which is a safety feature. Ehh... I mean, it doesn't say anything about that on the form, and will anyone notice it through this entire process? Will they ask at any point, "is your gun modified"? Seems unlikely to matter, but in this situation, I would want to do EVERYTHING I could to maximize my chance of success, so I would restore the gun to factory configuration or choose another gun. You could also put it on your app in 40 cal, and then do an amendment later when you swap back the barrel. I would make the app as "vanilla" as possible to maximize chances, because who knows if they're going to issue anything at all and better to not give them anything to even bring up any questions.

I'd hate to see you (or anyone) posting back in this forum 5 months from now, "they approved my GC, I took the training, and when they finally did the inspection they noticed the LCI was gone so they didn't issue it and wouldn't let me re-apply because they said I disabled a safety featue!" Seems very unlikely, but why take any risk at all in this situation?

[Kestryll]

You mean I can't (shouldn't) carry my triple barrel Howdah in a Thunderwear holster??
In that case just forget the whole thing...


Thanks for the input and help!

[Big Jake]

It's pretty sad you're using the Duke's image while doing nothing but naysaying and acting like a little yapping dog on the side of the road. I'd think, at the very least, you'd have something, anything, better to do than spend your time & effort doing that. But I guess not....

I'm just being honest and realistic. It won't happen!

[mej16489]

Pre-McDonnell there were essentially zero restrictions once you had your license. I had quite a few items on my permit including a pre-91 private transfer Walther PPK (aka no DROS) and quite a few SSE1.0. I think the only On Roster item was a Gen 3 G19.

[Paladin]

Pre-McDonnell there were essentially zero restrictions once you had your license. I had quite a few items on my permit including a pre-91 private transfer Walther PPK (aka no DROS) and quite a few SSE1.0. I think the only On Roster item was a Gen 3 G19.

So, you had a LASD CCW?

Do you still?

Can you share a rough idea of what your GC was/is? (But not so much detail so as to ID yourself.)

[marcusrn]

You mean I can't (shouldn't) carry my triple barrel Howdah in a Thunderwear holster??
In that case just forget the whole thing...


Thanks for the input and help!

You could also get around that issue by reregister with CA DOJ by mail for $19. and just send them note that you are anal about your guns registration accuracy and it's present iteration is 9mm. Of cource you would do this previous to applying for LA ccw.