Single Shot Exemption Explanation/Database Thread

[kemasa]

So if someone got pulled over or approached at the range by law enforcement would they get arrested for a 10 round Magazine in an ak47 pistol? What is the best way explain this "single shot exemption" to the officer? & what evidence could you provide to back it up?

Innocent until proven guilty, unless you say something stupid.

There is nothing to explain and no reason to explain. All that matters is that the firearm is legal to possess in CA, not how you managed to get it nor how it has been modified (or not) over the life of the firearm.

[49erlife]

Innocent until proven guilty, unless you say something stupid.

There is nothing to explain and no reason to explain. All that matters is that the firearm is legal to possess in CA, not how you managed to get it nor how it has been modified (or not) over the life of the firearm.

very true. thank you

[kemasa]

If the police start asking you all sorts of questions, just ask for their fishing license :-).

[emgee00]

If the police start asking you all sorts of questions, just ask for their fishing license :-).

That is funny!

[49erlife]

If the police start asking you all sorts of questions, just ask for their fishing license :-).

lol

[Strykeback]

Most of my law enforcement friends are aware of the fact that many law enforcement arent up to date on all the laws. But then there are those that love all of the awesome new weaponry as well

[xman577]

I own an AR pistol and I love it. Mines a pistol driven upper. And it does not give me any problems. If you build one with direct impingement you may need the "Noveske KX3 Flash Suppressor". Some peple are having proplems with thier pistols, because they are using short bult carrier and short buffer tubes. I don't recommend using those. They will make your're pistol unreliable which is why a lot of people do not like them. I use a rock river arms pistol buffer tube a standerd carbine spring and a standered bult carrier. Some people use a muzzle break to help the gun operate direct impingement.

[Strykeback]

I really need to do the research on how I cant have an sbr but a pistol ar is good to go?

[rackem1899]

I really need to do the research on how I cant have an sbr but a pistol ar is good to go?

Interested in this as well. I plan on building (from an 80%) AR pistol. but searching "AR" anything brings up TONS of post. Would I need to first assemble it to be exempt (length & single shot) prior to putting a 7.5"?

[morrcarr67]

I really need to do the research on how I cant have an sbr but a pistol ar is good to go?

It's really very simple.

Only C&R classified SBR's and SBS's are legal in CA.

So if you build an AR style SBR today it would not be a C&R classified SBR.

If you build a pistol on the AR platform and you comply with all of CA laws regarding the definition of a pistol and all other CA laws; ie AW laws, then yes you are good to go.

[Damn True]

Tons of great info in this thread. I might have missed it but I'm wondering if Springfield's warranty is in any way voided by an SSE?

I mean the process necessarily requires modification of the firearm, even if only temporarily.

[XDJYo]

Tons of great info in this thread. I might have missed it but I'm wondering if Springfield's warranty is in any way voided by an SSE?

I mean the process necessarily requires modification of the firearm, even if only temporarily.

I doubt it. There is no real permanent modification at all.

Others with first hand knowledge may want to chime in though.

[97F1504RAD]

Not to mention the fact that how would SA even know that a SSE was done on the pistol.

[kemasa]

If the manufacturer knew and/or could tell that it had been modified (not likely), then they might try to make the claim to get out of any warranty issues. So don't ever say anything about it, even if asked. It really depends on the company and what the issue is. Vehicle manufacturers seem to like to use any excuse to get out warranty work, so it is something to be aware of.

As was said, there is no permanent change to the firearm and installing and removing a barrel should have no effect on the firearm as long as the part meets the factory specs. If you were to install a barrel and it was out of spec and cause damage to another part, then it would not be covered under warranty and there would be signs of this happening, such as strange scratches and such.

[Damn True]

Not to mention the fact that how would SA even know that a SSE was done on the pistol.

For the sake of argument, let's say I SSE a Springer XD-S. They know the XD-S is not on the CA DOJ list so the only way I could be in possession of said gun as a CA resident is via SSE.....and I can't help but imagine they have a lawyer that knows what an SSE entails.