Single Shot Exemption Explanation/Database Thread

[hikingwithguns]

Add riflegear to the list of shops who will now do SSE on some items.

[Cyc Wid It]

wait wait ... so we're back to having to be an 07 FFL to do SSE

Where are you getting this from? The conversion just has to be mechanically competent. From what I hear, some shops still aren't really taking this part to heart.

I guess I'll PM riflegear to figure out what their capacity is. Or if someone could tell them to contact me, that works too.

[RippSpeed]

Where are you getting this from? The conversion just has to be mechanically competent. From what I hear, some shops still aren't really taking this part to heart.

I guess I'll PM riflegear to figure out what their capacity is. Or if someone could tell them to contact me, that works too.

Cyc Wid It;
you know I've one of the first posters on this thread ... and its been awhile since I looked at the post #1. And before you use to have a note stating it doesnt need to be an 07 FFL but now the note is gone. And you have a list of 07 FFL ... Thats why I raised the question about it ...

[Cyc Wid It]

Ah there was a truncation because I reached the limit (again) for characters in the post, I'll re-edit that portion.

Now edited for clarity. The red bold 07 FFL took up A LOT of characters. I've edited the section for consistency. It's a good problem to have - means there are many shops participating.

[Kega2k5]

Thank you so much for the information here. I've been able to SSE a few pistols earlier this year but have a question about a particular scenario.

If I have a relative/friend that is out of state that has a pistol they would like to give/sell to me, can they bring it into CA (minus hicap mags) and do a Personal Party Transfer? Is this possible?

My apologies if this was answered already in this thread. Thanks in advance.

[97F1504RAD]

Thank you so much for the information here. I've been able to SSE a few pistols earlier this year but have a question about a particular scenario.

If I have a relative/friend that is out of state that has a pistol they would like to give/sell to me, can they bring it into CA (minus hicap mags) and do a Personal Party Transfer? Is this possible?

My apologies if this was answered already in this thread. Thanks in advance.

No a PPT has to be done by two people that are residents of California.

[Kega2k5]

Alrighty, thank you!

[97F1504RAD]

Yep

[morrcarr67]

No a PPT has to be done by two people that are residents of California.

Correct.

But it can still be done as a SSE or SAORE transfer

[Dirte]

Thank you so much for the information here. I've been able to SSE a few pistols earlier this year but have a question about a particular scenario.

If I have a relative/friend that is out of state that has a pistol they would like to give/sell to me, can they bring it into CA (minus hicap mags) and do a Personal Party Transfer? Is this possible?

My apologies if this was answered already in this thread. Thanks in advance.

Just a friendly suggestion here. Please refer to them as standard capacity magazines. It's important we don't let the anti's define us. Please don't think I'm being rude here, I just think some of the little subtle things like this are important in the culture war over 2A.

[advocatusdiaboli]

Cyc Wid It;
you know I've one of the first posters on this thread ... and its been awhile since I looked at the post #1. And before you use to have a note stating it doesnt need to be an 07 FFL but now the note is gone. And you have a list of 07 FFL ... Thats why I raised the question about it ...

The FFL MUST be an 07 FFL. Several LGS doing SSE transactions have been shut down in Silicon Valley because they were not. I wonder if the CalDOJ will go after all the people who SSEd from them? Yikes.

[keenkeen]

The FFL MUST be an 07 FFL. Several LGS doing SSE transactions have been shut down in Silicon Valley because they were not. I wonder if the CalDOJ will go after all the people who SSEd from them? Yikes.

What shops? Sounds like BS to me without some details.

I say "not true".

[kemasa]

The FFL MUST be an 07 FFL. Several LGS doing SSE transactions have been shut down in Silicon Valley because they were not. I wonder if the CalDOJ will go after all the people who SSEd from them? Yikes.

It is NOT true that to do a SSE it requires an 07 FFL unless machining or milling is required. This is a BATF issue, not a CA DOJ issue.

[r6533]

It is NOT true that to do a SSE it requires an 07 FFL unless machining or milling is required. This is a BATF issue, not a CA DOJ issue.

performing operations which create firearms or alter firearms (in the case of alterations, the work is not being performed at the request of customers, rather the person who is altering the firearms is purchasing them, making the changes, and then reselling them), 2. is performing the operations as a regular course of business or trade, and 3. is performing the operations for the purpose of sale or distribution of the firearms.
Below are examples of operations performed on firearms and guidance as to whether or not such operations would be considered manufacturing under the Gun Control Act (GCA). These examples do not address the question of whether the operations are considered manufacturing for purposes of determining excise tax. Any questions concerning the payment of excise tax should be directed to the Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau, U.S. Department of the Treasury.

A company produces a quantity of firearm frames or receivers for sale to customers who will assemble firearms.

The company is engaged in the business of manufacturing firearms and should be licensed as a manufacturer of firearms.

A company produces frames or receivers for another company that assembles and sells the firearms.

Both companies are engaged in the business of manufacturing firearms and each should be licensed as a manufacturer of firearms.

A company provides frames to a subcontractor company that performs machining operations on the frames and returns the frames to the original company which assembles and sells the completed firearms.

Both companies are engaged in the business of manufacturing firearms and should be licensed as manufacturers of firearms.

A company produces barrels for firearms and sells the barrels to another company that assembles and sells complete firearms.

Because barrels are not firearms, the company that manufactures the barrels is not a manufacturer of firearms. The company that assembles and sells the firearms should be licensed as a manufacturer of firearms.

This would be considered the manufacturing of firearms, as the gunsmith is purchasing the firearms, modifying the firearms and selling them. The gunsmith should be licensed as a manufacturer.

[kemasa]

The FAQ is old and outdated. It is also not law. Things change, but web pages don't always change.