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  • Osprey_Armament6
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2015
    • 3

    Transfer to CA

    I work for Osprey Armament,an ITARS/FFL compliant company in Wilmington, NC. We got a lot of interest in our company at SHOT Show from individuals who live in California. I have a potential customer who lives in California and would like to purchase our MK-18 Pistol ( http://www.ospreyarmament.com/store/...l#.VNjrpp3F98E ). We are looking at our options at completing this sale, but doing it in a "California Legal" way. Because the law is very different from our laws in North Carolina, a lot of this is confusing. We would very much like input from people who have knowledge in doing this type of work. Please reply to this or email me. Thanks in advance for any help. We greatly appreciate it.

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    • JDW67
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 2001

      Originally posted by Osprey_Armament6
      I work for Osprey Armament,an ITARS/FFL compliant company in Wilmington, NC. We got a lot of interest in our company at SHOT Show from individuals who live in California. I have a potential customer who lives in California and would like to purchase our MK-18 Pistol ( http://www.ospreyarmament.com/store/...l#.VNjrpp3F98E ). We are looking at our options at completing this sale, but doing it in a "California Legal" way. Because the law is very different from our laws in North Carolina, a lot of this is confusing. We would very much like input from people who have knowledge in doing this type of work. Please reply to this or email me. Thanks in advance for any help. We greatly appreciate it.
      You're out of luck unless you can get the pistol onto the California roster.

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      • Citizen_B
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2014
        • 1429

        The short answer is you're most likely out of luck unless the roster law changes. There is a case challenging the roster but no one knows how long it will take to finalize.

        If your customer is someone interested in one or a few, your options are very limited/impractical to the point of forgetting about it. As stated, for you as an FFL to sell to a CA civilian resident, it has to be on the roster or meet one of the roster exemption criterias (unlikely).

        If your customer is someone interested in a large order(s), I'd suggest speaking with an experienced CA gun law attorney. Calguns has some recommendations.

        Good luck if you pursue this. The more pressure on this issue the better.

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        • Osprey_Armament6
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2015
          • 3

          Originally posted by JDW67
          You're out of luck unless you can get the pistol onto the California roster.
          One option we had looked at was to sell everything but the stripped lower. Is that even a viable option?

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          • geeman01
            Junior Member
            • May 2012
            • 57

            You can build the pistol from a virgin reciever and ship it as a break top or bolt action single shot pistol.

            Or you can ship all the parts and have the customer procure the lower.

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            • Osprey_Armament6
              Junior Member
              • Feb 2015
              • 3

              Originally posted by geeman01
              You can build the pistol from a virgin reciever and ship it as a break top or bolt action single shot pistol.

              Or you can ship all the parts and have the customer procure the lower.
              The customer is able to procure an 80% lower or even a 0%, but will we be able to provide the parts for the lower or would the customer need to get the lower parts as well? I appreciate all the help, this has been very informative so far.

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              • geeman01
                Junior Member
                • May 2012
                • 57

                You can ship him the parts.

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                • ke6guj
                  Moderator
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 23725

                  Originally posted by Osprey_Armament6
                  The customer is able to procure an 80% lower or even a 0%, but will we be able to provide the parts for the lower or would the customer need to get the lower parts as well? I appreciate all the help, this has been very informative so far.
                  the only thing that CA really regulates in this case is the lower. if the customer procures his own pistol lower, the rest is just parts. you may sell lower parts kits and complete uppers without any regulation. just be aware that SBR constructive possession laws do apply federally and in CA, so he should have a pistol lower before he has a <16" upper in his possession, unless he owns no AR rifles that that upper could be used on.
                  Jack



                  Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                  No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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