Single Shot Exemption Explanation/Database Thread

[12voltguy]

Sorry if this has been beaten to death somewhere else but this topic is confusing the hell out of me.

I understand the SSE for handguns, I am currently trying to buy a Gen 4 Glock. My Question is about the term of "circumventing?" the law. I spoke to a local gun shop that sells a lot off SSE of roster handguns, they are good to go. Where I get confused is a LE officer that I know said that if I were to ever use the gun (of course it will have been changed back to the factory specs) the courts could fry me showing that I "circumvented" the law to acquire an "illegal" firearm and possibly demonize me for using it to defend my family. It this a concern

Once again sorry if this has been addressed, maybe just point me to the right thread.

Have a good night everyone.

they could say things like "HE HAD A .45, 9mm was not deadly enough
he had manstopper bullets, etc etc etc
custom trigger..........list goes on
yes I have a LCP I got through SSE, it will be on my CCW in a few weeks when I renew it.
not worried at all

[Cyc Wid It]

If it was a good shoot, you will be fine.

[madbretbeyondthunderdome]

For whatever reason, I have noticed that when transferring an AR pistol, even if it is used, ppt, a lot of FFLs still want you to transfer it as SSE and use the 0 round sled. However, with off list pistols like 1911s that were off list and SSE, the same shops don't seem to have a problem just doing a private party transfer of the firearm. I don't believe there is any difference, they just feel weird about AR pistols still, and are 'covering their asses'. Is there anything legally that makes the AR pistol have to remain SSE or are the FFLs that I've spoke with just misinformed? When I bought my AR pistol, I had to single shot it and could not take the upper off the pistol to bring home with me according to the shop it was transferred at...ie: I had to leave the whole gun in SSE status for 10 days even though it was not brand new and already had been registered in California by the previous owner.

[Cyc Wid It]

When you buy any handgun you're supposed to do the safe gun handling demonstration, which you cannot do with just a lower. Also, all exempted guns must remain in exempt form throughout the 10 day waiting period. If you were to PPT an AR pistol, you would not need to use the sled. Magazine locks are a separate issue from single shot exemptions.

[madbretbeyondthunderdome]

So, it is legal to PPT an AR pistol but it must stay together as a complete gun because of the safe handling demo. Makes sense. So, the guys that made me ruin a 10/30 magazine with superglue WERE being over cautious. Oh well, could be worse

[Gothboy]

So would someone please help me see if I've got this straight?
If I want to purchase an off list 9mm pistol from out of state that has a threaded barrel, and a more than 10 rd magazine, I must...
1) seek out a ffl to lock a "cap" type thing over the threaded part of the barrel, and
2) block up the magazine to a zero capacity, and only...
3) THEN it can be shipped to a willing ffl here in ca? Does that sound right?

So then do I order it from an out of state ffl who will do the work, or do I order it from an in state ffl who will do the work? Please and thank you for any input.

[12voltguy]

So would someone please help me see if I've got this straight?
If I want to purchase an off list 9mm pistol from out of state that has a threaded barrel, and a more than 10 rd magazine, I must...
1) seek out a ffl to lock a "cap" type thing over the threaded part of the barrel, and
2) block up the magazine to a zero capacity, and only...
3) THEN it can be shipped to a willing ffl here in ca? Does that sound right?

So then do I order it from an out of state ffl who will do the work, or do I order it from an in state ffl who will do the work? Please and thank you for any input.

barrel has to be min 6" overall length 10.5

off top of my head I think those are the #s
my lcp had a longggggggggggg barrel installed to meet those #s,lol

[Gothboy]

barrel has to be min 6" overall length 10.5

off top of my head I think those are the #s
my lcp had a longggggggggggg barrel installed to meet those #s,lol

1) So, if thats correct than can I have a fake can installed and soldered or loctited to meet the required length since the barrel is already threaded?

2) I recently bought a sse pistol from ammo bros that had a 8 1/4 barrel. How does the length come into account for this when it seems to matter but not matter?

Not trying to be rude, just legal. The pistol in # 1) is a magazine in grip style.
The pistol in # 2) was an AR style, but in .22lr.

[Strykeback]

No threades barrels in california no matter what. Id love to havr an HK tactical but....

[12voltguy]

No threades barrels in california no matter what. Id love to havr an HK tactical but....

all my ar pistols have threaded barrels
so does my mac 10, but comp is welded on the mac

[kemasa]

The threaded barrel only applies to pistols:

CA PC 30515. (a) Notwithstanding Section 30510, "assault weapon" also
means any of the following:
...
(4) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a
detachable magazine and any one of the following:
(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor,
forward handgrip, or silencer.
...

Just the threaded barrel is the issue, not whether it has anything attached it. If there is something to prevent something from being attached, such as welded on, then it would not be an issue.

[mrdd]

all my ar pistols have threaded barrels

that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.

[Gothboy]

So then do I order it from an out of state ffl who will do the work, or do I order it from an in state ffl who will do the work? Please and thank you for any input.

The threaded barrell seems to be taking up the entire conversation when it's not that big a deal. I can just get a model without one if need be. The important thing im having the problem with here is i guess this do I call a shop out of state and order it, have them do the work to convert it to sse THEN have it shipped to a vendor here, or do I go to one of the listed shops HERE IN CA who will do the work to convert it to sse and order it? I found the list of shops who are willing to do stuff, but I just dont quite get the specifics of this question.

Please and thank you for your time folks, you guys are great.

[CAGLS]

Besides Table Rock, who else can SSE a CZ P-06?

[Gothboy]

Besides Table Rock, who else can SSE a CZ P-06?

LOL! Thats pretty much the gun Im asking about. A CZ P07. Haha!