Single Shot Exemption Explanation/Database Thread

[pklin1297]

Unless your brother is a California resident also who can PPT the guns to you, which you already said he is not since he lives out of state. Any gun he wishes to sell to you would have to go through a FFL just the same as if you were buying from another dealer, or another individual from out of State. And since those guns are off roster, you won't be able to transfer them.

[rdfact]

I used the search and did not find this:
Alquist Arms in Turlock is now doing SSE and does not charge an extra fee.

[Moia Man]

Hello everyone. I found a H&K VP70Z in Iowa and the owner will only send it over to my local FFL without the (2) 18 round magazine. I located a couple of local FFL that will process the SSE and because they also carry high capacity magazine permit that' ll also pin/block the magazine to a 10 rounder. The handgun has a fixed-barrel design much like a Walther PPK, my question is if i can get the owner to send the the 2 magazines over will it be legal after the SSE and mag conversion? Thanks for any input and help.

[HibikiR]

If your FFL can SSE it and block the mags, I don't see why it wouldn't be legal.

[510rick]

FWIW my dealer said 11:59pm New Years eve is the dead line to pick up your SSE GUN . NO EXCEPTIONS

[ke6guj]

FWIW my dealer said 11:59pm New Years eve is the dead line to pick up your SSE GUN . NO EXCEPTIONS

that might be hard to do when the DES system shuts down at 11pm each night normally. I wouldn't expect CADOJ to extend the hours that the DES system is online just for New Year's Eve.

[kemasa]

The handgun has a fixed-barrel design much like a Walther PPK, my question is if i can get the owner to send the the 2 magazines over will it be legal after the SSE and mag conversion? Thanks for any input and help.

Realize that other than the so-called a-salt weapons, all firearms are legal in CA. The issue with the certified list is that it restricts transfers unless the buyer or firearm is exempt. Converting the firearm to single shot makes it exempt from the certified list (currently).

If your FFL as a so-called high capacity magazine permit, it is legal for them to accept such magazines. The FFL can convert the magazine to 10 rounds, or even sell the magazines for you, so there is little reason to not have the magazines shipped. Whether you can get the seller to ship the magazines is another issue, but it is not a legal issue.

[joshsbk]

I am trying to get a walther PPQ M2 9mm through SSE. What's my best bet. Do I find a dealer online that ships the gun configured SSE. Or do I find a local shop that is on the list above? Kinda confused on the whole thing. I am a first time gun buyer as well so I'm sure that's not helping me understand the laws and terms used. Any help is appreciated thanks. Or if there is a certain thread I should be looking at let me know

[pklin1297]

I am trying to get a walther PPQ M2 9mm through SSE. What's my best bet. Do I find a dealer online that ships the gun configured SSE. Or do I find a local shop that is on the list above? Kinda confused on the whole thing. I am a first time gun buyer as well so I'm sure that's not helping me understand the laws and terms used. Any help is appreciated thanks. Or if there is a certain thread I should be looking at let me know

Where are you located? If you are in Orange County, do the following:

Order from here: http://grabagun.com/walther-ppq-m2-9...lk-pol-fs.html (no CC fees and shipping is $5.99 and will get here within a week)

Have them send the pistol to OC Firearms in Fountain Valley, whose FFL is on record with Grabagun. Grabagun will email you to confirm whether your FFL will accept and block the high capacity magazines, or if you want the pistol shipped without magazine (do the prior). After either confirmation they will ship pistol.

Once Pistol arrives at OCF, walk in and do DROS. OCF will charge Transfer Fee + SSE + DROS + California Tax, which means you'll tag on probably around $170 on top of the price you paid to Grabagun. If OCF has the PPQ M2 in stock (only the .40 S&W), then you can order from them and disregard the Transfer fee. You'll need HSC license, Driver's license and documentation that proves you live where you live.

Wait 10 days and pick up your PPQ M2, assuming your DROS goes through without problems.


If you live elsewhere, substitute OCF for local gun shop that can also do SSEs. I suggested Grabagun because generally speaking, OTD cost from them for pistol + shipping is the cheapest I've found and they answer the phone when I need to call them. KYGunCo is another one that most people use, but they charge higher shipping and CC fees, and gun prices may or may not be higher than Grabagun, but after you add the other fees, OTD prices favor Grabagun. Of course, if your local gun store has one in stock for a decent price and no one has snatched it up yet, buy it and support your local shop.

Hope this helps. Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with either OCF or Grabagun, other than that my last three SSE gun purchases this year were done exactly as shown above.

[LiferLance]

What prevents me from buying off roster firearms out of state and returning with them. In my case, I am a resident of another state that works here.

[purer00r]

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[LiferLance]

I meant like legally, if I am a NH resident who is working in CA, why couldn't I just buy my stuff there and bring it in. Obviously BBs or 10 rounders are required, but where does it say I can't buy elsewhere and bring them with me as my own?

[manini]

joshsbk: another option is to check the marketplace and try to get a PPQ through ppt. That way you avoid shipping charges, taxes, transfer fees, and sse fees.

[kemasa]

What prevents me from buying off roster firearms out of state and returning with them. In my case, I am a resident of another state that works here.

If you are a resident of two states, CA and another, then you can actually bring such a firearm into the state. There is the voluntary registration form on the CA DOJ web site. You need to list where you received the firearm from and that you are a dual resident. This is what I was told by the CA DOJ for a customer who was a dual resident.

[kemasa]

I don't think anything can physically prevent you, but your good moral character, partnered with the your unwanting to violate California law might stop you... or the thought of a border check point finding your unregistered, off roster pistol.

Really? Please explain where you got this information from since it conflicts with what I was told by the CA DOJ. Please provide the CA law that this would violate.

There is nothing illegal about having an off roster handgun and new residents have 60 days to fill out the forms, so a "border check" would not be an issue, not to mention there are no such border inspections, except for produce.

This is suppose to be a firearms forum, not an anti-gun site, so please make sure that you have your facts correct before you post such things.