Single Shot Exemption Explanation/Database Thread

[ke6guj]

Is there hope for a sse2?

yes there is. there are FFLs planning on methods to sell single-shot handguns in 2015. will that allow for you to get Glock Gen4's next year, unknown at this time.

So I am currently waiting on my ak pistol, but I could buy any handgun simultaneously, as long as its ppt..? Just not in LA.

Cool.

PPTs are exempt from the 1-in-30.

[edittman1]

Thx

[2mean2like]

Went to a LGS and asked to see a pistol I was thinking of purchasing that is not on the Calif. approved list. Salesman asked if I was a LEO, said if not, I cannot show you the pistol.

Do you guys that purchase a handgun thru SSE, buy before checking them out?

[mafbloggerdanny]

Went to a LGS and asked to see a pistol I was thinking of purchasing that is not on the Calif. approved list. Salesman asked if I was a LEO, said if not, I cannot show you the pistol.

Do you guys that purchase a handgun thru SSE, buy before checking them out?

That was some policy your LGS has. Just don't buy from them. Plenty of shops do SSE and also happily allow the customer to inspect the product before committing to spend the money.

[EatsEverything]

Went to a LGS and asked to see a pistol I was thinking of purchasing that is not on the Calif. approved list. Salesman asked if I was a LEO, said if not, I cannot show you the pistol.

Depends on the LGS. My experience has been that if the LGS has the capability to SSE a particular gun, they'll show it to you. If not, you can't buy it from them anyway, so they don't.

Do you guys that purchase a handgun thru SSE, buy before checking them out?

I find other ways to get my hands on one to get a feel for them first. Either I find a place that rents them, is willing to let me fondle one, or go to a CGSSA monthly shoot and see if anyone has one you can borrow for a bit.

Calgunners are friendly folks and you never know who you'll meet who's more than happy to let you try out your gun of choice.

[kemasa]

Take a look at the CA PC with respect to firearms not on the certified list. They can NOT legally offer or expose for sale any "unsafe" handgun. This means that unless it is converted, it can not be shown as being for sale unless the person is exempt.

31910. As used in this part, "unsafe handgun" means any pistol,
revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the
person, for which any of the following is true:
...
32000. (a) Commencing January 1, 2001, any person in this state who
manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state
for sale, keeps for sale, offers or exposes for sale, gives, or lends
any unsafe handgun shall be punished by imprisonment in a county
jail not exceeding one year.
(b) This section shall not apply to any of the following:
(1) The manufacture in this state, or importation into this state,
of a prototype handgun when the manufacture or importation is for
the sole purpose of allowing an independent laboratory certified by
the Department of Justice pursuant to Section 32010 to conduct an
independent test to determine whether that handgun is prohibited by
Sections 31900 to 32110, inclusive, and, if not, allowing the
department to add the firearm to the roster of handguns that may be
sold in this state pursuant to Section 32015.
(2) The importation or lending of a handgun by employees or
authorized agents of entities determining whether the weapon is
prohibited by this section.
(3) Firearms listed as curios or relics, as defined in Section
478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations.
(4) The sale or purchase of a handgun, if the handgun is sold to,
or purchased by, the Department of Justice, a police department, a
sheriff's official, a marshal's office, the Department of Corrections
and Rehabilitation, the California Highway Patrol, any district
attorney's office, any federal law enforcement agency, or the
military or naval forces of this state or of the United States for
use in the discharge of their official duties. This section does not
prohibit the sale to, or purchase by, sworn members of these agencies
of a handgun.
(c) Violations of subdivision (a) are cumulative with respect to
each handgun and shall not be construed as restricting the
application of any other law. However, an act or omission punishable
in different ways by this section and other provisions of law shall
not be punished under more than one provision, but the penalty to be
imposed shall be determined as set forth in Section 654.

[DavidR310]

Take a look at the CA PC with respect to firearms not on the certified list. They can NOT legally offer or expose for sale any "unsafe" handgun. This means that unless it is converted, it can not be shown as being for sale unless the person is exempt.

Thanks for clarifying that for me. Makes sense why they won't even let you look at the gun.

[my66quick]

Depends on the LGS. My experience has been that if the LGS has the capability to SSE a particular gun, they'll show it to you. If not, you can't buy it from them anyway, so they don't.

I won't name any names, but a store let my wife handle an off roster gun just last week. They told her it was LEO only, but had no problem with her checking it out.

[ben_r_]

Ha I handle off roster guns at literally ALL the LGSs around me that sell guns via SSE. And even the few that don't will let you hold and play with LEO only guns. Never heard of such a law.

[miguelangelr]

Hello,

I live in Escondido and am also looking for a place where they will do a SSE for an XDM 5.25 9mm. Which local shop would you recommend? I went to the shop in Solana Beach but they were very expensive. The local Turners, will not give me the time of day.

Also, can you explain what has to be done with the high capacity mags (19+1). Can they be converted or do they get discarded. Or does the FFL simply not give them to you?

Thanks.

[norcalcyclist]

Depends on the FFL...I've had some swap out the hi-caps for CA-neutered mags...one place blocked my mags @ 10...and one place just keep the mags in exchange for the SSE fee.

Good luck!

[Cordelia Gun Exchange]

We are full service for SSE with no fees or wait time right now. We can handle just about any gun out there in the 4 major calibers, and most 1911s. All large frame pistols too, AR pistols, AK pistols, HK legacy. Call or stop on by and we'll get you guys done up on whatever you want.

[Ameeks]

Private Party Purchase after Jan 1 2015

I have a brother that lives out of CA and has the ability to purchase just about any gun without restriction. If he purchased a CA off roster hand gun like Sig P938, can he sell it to me via normal FFL process after Jan 1, 2015? If so, any mods needed?

Thanks!

[kkp]

I have a brother that lives out of CA and has the ability to purchase just about any gun without restriction. If he purchased a CA off roster hand gun like Sig P938, can he sell it to me via normal FFL process after Jan 1, 2015? If so, any mods needed?

Thanks!

Curious to know the answer, although I suspect I do. Also, is the situation different if it's not a blood relative, just a friend?

[EatsEverything]

Intra-familial transfers only work for parent/child, grandparent/grandchild, and husband/wife. (Wonder if that'll change to spouse, instead of specifically stating husband/wife at some point.)

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Transferring_Firearms_Among_Some_Family_Members