San Bernardino

[WheelGunMagic]

Anybody heard from them lately? I had a 1/26/18 interview, and have heard nothing yet. I had a small delay with my employer submitting a letter back to them, but it has been confirmed sent, and they should have gotten that back 2 weeks ago.

Also how are you notified of either the approval or denial? Is it a call either way, or one a call & one a letter in the mail?

Thanks

My timeline was:

application 10-18-17
interview 12-1-17 (early due to cancellation)
redo live scan 12-13-17
cleared background 2-2-18
range date 2-17-18
pick up permit 2-26-18

Can't address a denial situation, but for me all contact after the initial application was made only by phone. Hang in - you could be getting a call any day. Best of luck!

[38Special]

I wonder what happened to their online application!

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Link is still there and appears to be working.

[morrcarr67]

Link is still there and appears to be working.

Where?

I've been up and down this page and it's not there.

http://cms.sbcounty.gov/sheriff/ccwfaq.aspx

Never mind. I found it. Just didn't go down to the bottom of the page.

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[38Special]

Where?

I've been up and down this page and it's not there.

http://cms.sbcounty.gov/sheriff/ccwfaq.aspx

Never mind. I found it. Just didn't go down to the bottom of the page.

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Right here

[ccw-g30]

Anyone else taking the Rancho renewal class on 3/13? I'll be there! It'd be nice to leave with my new permit that evening since I expire in April.

[38Special]

Anyone else taking the Rancho renewal class on 3/13? I'll be there! It'd be nice to leave with my new permit that evening since I expire in April.

Normally new permits are handed out at class if you are very near your expiration date on the current one.

[Jeepergeo]

I am just filling out my application and my question is, I had several DUI's in the late 90's. I was a dumb kid. Will this disqualify me?

"....several DUI's...." is a pretty significant sign of alcoholism, which is generally considered incurable. Given how much time in class they spend on CCW around alcohol, I'd be surprised if they issue. You won't know until you apply, so report back what happens either way.

[Dburns]

[FlyingShooter]

[SteelPastor]

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Question... I have been reading thru several of legislative proposals for CA... particularly regarding CCW. Assembly Bill 2103 proposes to add to the requirements and training needed to obtain a permit (details are still in process). Grrrr! My question is... how will these new requirements (if passed) impact people who are currently in the application process? Any idea how these kinds of things impacted people "in process" in times past?

I understand this is a policy question, but it seems to fit with the parameters of this thread. If I need to relocate... please let me know. Thank you.

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[Cokebottle]

Question... I have been reading thru several of legislative proposals for CA... particularly regarding CCW. Assembly Bill 2103 proposes to add to the requirements and training needed to obtain a permit (details are still in process). Grrrr! My question is... how will these new requirements (if passed) impact people who are currently in the application process? Any idea how these kinds of things impacted people "in process" in times past?

I was just reading that a few minutes ago.
It would have no impact on current applicants, as the requirements are minimum of 8 to maximum of 16 hours, including live fire.
Current requirements are no more than 16 hours... I'm honestly surprised not to see a live-fire requirement, but I'm not aware of any IA in California that does not already require it. Honestly, I don't think it will have any impact on NEW applicants in any county.

The impact will be on renewals.
While it does not go so far so as to require a minimum of 8 hours, it DOES require live-fire... with EACH gun that is listed. That's going to push us all into 8+ hours, and hurt the county in staffing requirements, we'll probably be looking at $100 renewal classes.

That is going to be a pain every 2 years for everyone, having to re-qualify, but it's going to be a major ordeal for those in Orange County who have been going buck the last few months adding everything they own to their permits since the county went to unlimited. OC runs private training, so it won't impact staffing, but it's going to cost permit holders a lot more.

[Notpc]

Cokebottle,
How would this affect renewal since we already have our 8 hour class and live fire for each of our listed firearms in San Berdo?

The impact will be on renewals.
While it does not go so far so as to require a minimum of 8 hours, it DOES require live-fire... with EACH gun that is listed. That's going to push us all into 8+ hours, and hurt the county in staffing requirements, we'll probably be looking at $100 renewal classes.

[C_T]

Would you be able to do any custom work on your gun after you receive your permit? Or would it have to be done before the inspection?

[Cokebottle]

Cokebottle,
How would this affect renewal since we already have our 8 hour class and live fire for each of our listed firearms in San Berdo?

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB2103

26165. (a) For new license applicants, the course of training for issuance of a license under Section 26150 or 26155 may be any course acceptable to the licensing authority, shall not exceed 16 hours, and shall include instruction on at least firearm safety and the law regarding the permissible use of a firearm. authority that meets the following criteria:
(1) The course shall be no less than eight hours, but shall not exceed 16 hours in length.
(2) The course shall include instruction on firearm safety, firearm handling, shooting technique, and laws regarding the permissible use of a firearm.
(3) The course shall include live-fire shooting exercises on a firing range and shall include a demonstration by the applicant of safe handling of, and shooting proficiency with, each firearm the applicant is applying to be licensed to carry.
(b) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), the licensing authority may require a community college course certified by the Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training, up to a maximum of 24 hours, but only if required uniformly of all license applicants without exception.
(c) For license renewal applicants, the course of training may be any course acceptable to the licensing authority, shall be no less than four hours, and shall include instruction on at least firearm safety and the law regarding the permissible use of a firearm. satisfy the requirements of paragraphs (2) and (3) of subdivision (a). No course of training shall be required for any person certified by the licensing authority as a trainer for purposes of this section, in order for that person to renew a license issued pursuant to this article.

Blue are the changes.
Section C requires that renewal meet the (2) and (3) requirements. (3) requires live-fire.

So we'll go to the HQ and take the current 4-hour renewal class, and either before or after, we'll have to pick up a range card and requalify.
That's going to significantly increase the workload at Devore, since the current renewals only shoot when making a change to a listed gun.

[Cokebottle]

Would you be able to do any custom work on your gun after you receive your permit? Or would it have to be done before the inspection?

The county carries no liability. The county frowns on "competition" level triggers and springs, "Carry/service" triggers and springs as well as improved sights are encouraged.

My CCW instructor said specifically "Please do not disable any factory safeties", so IMHO, disabling the magazine disconnect would be a no-go. Disabling a 1911 grip safety or removing a Shield thumb safety would absolutely be a no-go.

He also strongly recommended that any modifications be done by a licensed gunsmith. We're not talking about routine cleaning and spring replacement... those are wear parts and we should all have the skill to do that. But when a hard part is changed, a smith will know if fitting is required or not. I ended up with a non-functional grip safety on my RIA 1911 when I changed to an arched MSH. Parts that appear to be drop-in may not be.

BUT....
It's on us.
We, or rather, our attorneys, are going to be who has to explain to a jury why we have an image of the "Punisher" vigilante on our grips, and why we shot the bad guy with Hornady Super-Splatter Zombie-Killer ammo.
We must have been LOOKING for someone to shoot.

Modifications are not going to turn a good shoot into a bad shoot, or turn a bad shoot into a good shoot.
If a modification resulted in an accidental discharge, that's a bad shoot.
If it's a good shoot, your attorney saying "my client intended to shoot" removes any hair-trigger argument.
Pretty clean in criminal court.

Civil court is the problem.


As far as modifications and inspection, if you don't believe that a Deputy will pass your modifications on inspection, then it's probably not a good idea to make that modification.