Riverside

[Sleighter]

When should I start if my renewal date is June 2017? What's first step? Thank you.

Contact the deputies 3 months before your expiration and they'll take care of you.

[lupuseven]

I got a message saying my appointment will be early March 2019.. yes people you read correctly the 2019! I am not holding my breath. Between now and then, I will have either moved to a county or state that isn't slower than death itself. I understand that it is understaffed but I don't see any improvement in the future. ....

I am Curious when you sent the email?
I sent mine out Saturday, July 02, 2016 3:44 PM
Got my reply Today 7/5/16 0844 "You have been scheduled to come in on October 16, 2018 at 1030 hrs. Sorry about the wait."

I chuckled at "sorry about the wait" part

Don't let initial appointment dates deter you.

They are based on current demand and staffing, and do not reflect the relatively high attrition rates.

Many counties often revise their appointments as actual demand changes and applicants fall out of the process.

I hope so, I travel for work I hope they dont suddenly change it while Im away...

Apply and get on with your life....

It is what it is, until it isn't.

Amen to that!

[axel4488]

I sent my email last week of June.. can't say when exactly as I deleted it in anger. If this is the case, I wonder if they are just picking random dates hoping to deter people from applying.

[lupuseven]

I sent my email last week of June.. can't say when exactly as I deleted it in anger. If this is the case, I wonder if they are just picking random dates hoping to deter people from applying.

that is weird! and outwardly unfair... I venture to speculate only thing that could explain the variant of our date is someone dropped out and I took their spot? but how may people would actually email to say never mind I'm not going to do it?

[Sleighter]

that is weird! and outwardly unfair... I venture to speculate only thing that could explain the variant of our date is someone dropped out and I took their spot? but how may people would actually email to say never mind I'm not going to do it?

I don't know so this is pure speculation but I wonder if the 2 deputies keep different calendars. Maybe one deputy is more backed up than the other?

[GuyFawkes]

Has anyone here spoken to the Riverside CCW unit specifically what one should do during a traffic stop while carrying? I know CA doesn't have a law regarding duty to inform and I couldn't find anything in the Riverside CCW guidelines in the application but I was just curious if anyone knew what their take on it is. I've been thinking about it much more in light of recent events.

[INVINCIBULL84]

Has anyone here spoken to the Riverside CCW unit specifically what one should do during a traffic stop while carrying? I know CA doesn't have a law regarding duty to inform and I couldn't find anything in the Riverside CCW guidelines in the application but I was just curious if anyone knew what their take on it is. I've been thinking about it much more in light of recent events.

I would think that being subtle is a good way. For example they ask for id & paperwork have the ccw in the paperwork that is handed over. I would treat it similar to saying the b word on a plane. Don't tell the cop u have a gun, say ccw permit instead

[remington]

Immediatly tell the officer when he/she approaches the vehicle (in a normal manner), you have licensed firearm in the vehicle and then ask how they want you to proceed. Keeps hands visable. A buddy of mine was pulled over and when asked how to proceed after informing the LEO, the LEO told him not to shoot him would be a good start. Asked for his CDL and got a warning. Did not ask anything about the firearm or evidence of CCW. CHP in Bishop. Thats one example, many other stories not as light hearted.

[13animal13]

It depends on the the issuing agency. Orange County requires you to inform the LEO when stopped about your CCW License and Weapon. If you are driving, have it out before they approach the window and ask for it. Then inform them if you are armed or not. If they walk up to you on the street and ask for your ID, inform them that you are a CCW License holder and are or are not armed. That will help with the instructions you will be presented with. At least, that's what I would do.

[Sleighter]

Has anyone here spoken to the Riverside CCW unit specifically what one should do during a traffic stop while carrying? I know CA doesn't have a law regarding duty to inform and I couldn't find anything in the Riverside CCW guidelines in the application but I was just curious if anyone knew what their take on it is. I've been thinking about it much more in light of recent events.

I have asked this question to Sheriff Sniff and he recommended not bringing it up during a normal traffic stop, UNLESS it will become an issue and/or be discovered.

The takeaway was, don't bring it up unless you need to. You need to bring it up when it's going to be discovered anyways. In that case, you want to be the first to mention it so the officer doesn't find it without you saying you have it.

The Sheriff's reasoning was that we have a lot of younger deputies on patrol that did not grow up with firearms and aren't familiar with them. That makes them uncomfortable around firearms and the last thing anyone needs is a nervous deputy on a routine traffic stop. So why increase the stress level with a gun if you don't need to?

[LMan57]

I have asked this question to Sheriff Sniff and he recommended not bringing it up during a normal traffic stop, UNLESS it will become an issue and/or be discovered.

The takeaway was, don't bring it up unless you need to. You need to bring it up when it's going to be discovered anyways. In that case, you want to be the first to mention it so the officer doesn't find it without you saying you have it.

The Sheriff's reasoning was that we have a lot of younger deputies on patrol that did not grow up with firearms and aren't familiar with them. That makes them uncomfortable around firearms and the last thing anyone needs is a nervous deputy on a routine traffic stop. So why increase the stress level with a gun if you don't need to?

Right on I remember the Sheriff say that thanks.

[R Dale]

I have asked this question to Sheriff Sniff and he recommended not bringing it up during a normal traffic stop, UNLESS it will become an issue and/or be discovered.

The takeaway was, don't bring it up unless you need to. You need to bring it up when it's going to be discovered anyways. In that case, you want to be the first to mention it so the officer doesn't find it without you saying you have it.

The Sheriff's reasoning was that we have a lot of younger deputies on patrol that did not grow up with firearms and aren't familiar with them. That makes them uncomfortable around firearms and the last thing anyone needs is a nervous deputy on a routine traffic stop. So why increase the stress level with a gun if you don't need to?

I was talking to a Riverside county Deputy about this very subject today and he said the same thing, He also said that if you tell him that you had a gun during a traffic stop he would ask you to keep your hands where he could see them and call for backup. He stated once his back up had arrived they would proceed with having you exit the vehicle or retrieve your papers and he stated he would rather not know you have a firearm or see one unexpectedly.

I told him if I was to be carrying a firearm in my car I most definitely would keep it out of sight and no where I would need to reach to for my papers and he said that is correct and just common sense. I think the way he would handle someone having a gun is the proper way because there is no reason to draw down on someone because you see a gun or you think someone may have if they are not acting in a threatening manner but I do understand that if that person fits the description of someone they have a BOLO for or if there are Multiple people in a vehicle that can cast a different light on things.

[GlockN'Roll]

I was talking to a Riverside county Deputy about this very subject today and he said the same thing, He also said that if you tell him that you had a gun during a traffic stop he would ask you to keep your hands where he could see them and call for backup. He stated once his back up had arrived they would proceed with having you exit the vehicle or retrieve your papers and he stated he would rather not know you have a firearm or see one unexpectedly.

I told him if I was to be carrying a firearm in my car I most definitely would keep it out of sight and no where I would need to reach to for my papers and said that is correct and just common sense.

I think the way he would handle someone having a gun is the proper way because there is no reason to draw down on someone because you see a gun or you think someone may have if they are not acting in a threatening manner but I do understand that if that person fits the description of someone they have a BOLO for or if there are Multiple people in a vehicle that can cast a different light on things.

So do you have a CCW permit now?

Or do just illegally carry a gun "out of sight" where you would not need to reach to for your papers in your car?

[R Dale]

So do you have a CCW permit now?

Or do just illegally carry a gun "out of sight" where you would not need to reach to for your papers in your car?

I NEVER SAID I WAS CARRYING A GUN ILLEGALLY IN THIS COUNTY AND IT WOULD BE STUPID OF ME TO SAY SO IF I WAS. As to what I may or may not do in another state is my business.

[GuyFawkes]

I have asked this question to Sheriff Sniff and he recommended not bringing it up during a normal traffic stop, UNLESS it will become an issue and/or be discovered.

The takeaway was, don't bring it up unless you need to. You need to bring it up when it's going to be discovered anyways. In that case, you want to be the first to mention it so the officer doesn't find it without you saying you have it.

The Sheriff's reasoning was that we have a lot of younger deputies on patrol that did not grow up with firearms and aren't familiar with them. That makes them uncomfortable around firearms and the last thing anyone needs is a nervous deputy on a routine traffic stop. So why increase the stress level with a gun if you don't need to?

Thanks. That's exactly the type of info I was looking for. Is there any chance this conversation with Sheriff Sniff was in writing or at a public speaking event/meeting?