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  • SoCalDuramax
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2017
    • 14

    Originally posted by Instajc556
    Well i understand that but i just want to know maybe what the criteria would be if some one wants to use self defence.
    Its not an easy question to answer and many keep their specific Good Cause private. I can say that it's obvious a CCW at its root is always for self defense but you will have to provide reasons and justification that are specific to you and your life. So yes, its for self defense but why do you need to specifically carry to defend yourself? Money, geographics, protecting valuable property, etc.

    Spend some time reading this thread and others and you may pick up on some ideas that resonate with your specific situation.

    Keep in mind that simple statements based on '2nd Amendment Rights' will not get you anywhere and self-defense without substance won't either. Spend some time on the Sheriff's CCW site, read through the paperwork, applications, etc. and you'll see that self defense alone won't cut it.

    Also, start typing up justification and support. Use it as a draft, go back and read it a week later, does it still make sense or does it need more? Does it seem vague or are you stretching for reasons? Also keep in mind depending on what you say they may ask for supporting documentation (ie: bank statements for large cash deposits, rental contracts, etc.) to make sure you're not just making stuff up in order to get a permit.

    As others have said and I can attest to, the Deputies at Riverside County as well as the Safety Class and Range are all pro-carry. They want everyone to have a permit but you have to play by the laws and rules in place. They are there to help but that might only come upon your interview and review of paperwork simply due to there being more applications/renewals and not enough time for them to play Q&A for everyone.

    It really is a good experience and you just have to be able to justify why you have a need to carry.

    It just takes some serious thought and of course a lot of time to get through the whole process.

    Hope this helps!

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    • jdben92883
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 3635

      Self defense is not a GC. You have to distinguish yourself from the average Joe. Where do you go that Joe doesn't have to? WHY do you have to go there? Are there alternatives besides carrying a firearm? What puts you at more risk than Joe? Why are you more of a target than Joe? Honestly, it's pretty easy coming up with RivCo GC statements. You have to give them SOMETHING to go off of, but they definitely don't ask for much.

      Originally posted by Instajc556
      Well i understand that but i just want to know maybe what the criteria would be if some one wants to use self defence.
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      • Instajc556
        Member
        • Sep 2016
        • 435

        Ok guys thanks alot i will give it some more thought. Much appreciated

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        • prezm9
          Junior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 22

          Got the call today

          1-19-17 interview and lifescan

          2-4-17 safety and qualifications done at Ben Clark

          6-12-17 approved ready to pick up.

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          • 38Special
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2013
            • 1539

            Originally posted by prezm9
            Got the call today

            1-19-17 interview and lifescan

            2-4-17 safety and qualifications done at Ben Clark

            6-12-17 approved ready to pick up.
            How long between request for interview and the actual interview?
            Mrs 38Special
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            • prezm9
              Junior Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 22

              Riverside

              Originally posted by 38Special
              How long between request for interview and the actual interview?


              I requested appointment about 2 or 3 weeks after the SB terrorist attack back in 2015.
              Last edited by prezm9; 06-12-2017, 5:58 PM.

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              • 38Special
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2013
                • 1539

                Originally posted by prezm9
                I requested appointment about 2 or 3 weeks after the SB terrorist attack back in 2015.
                Just looking for timeline info for others. Dec 2015 threw a huge kink into the works!
                Congrats on your CCW.
                Mrs 38Special
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                • prezm9
                  Junior Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 22

                  Originally posted by 38Special
                  Just looking for timeline info for others. Dec 2015 threw a huge kink into the works!

                  Congrats on your CCW.


                  Yes it did. Was looking into it before it happened and if I remember correctly the wait was around 6 months from call to appointment.

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                  • Dee_Dub
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 2091

                    I heard a rumor that RSO is booking their interviews into 2020... any truth? I hope not
                    A man's GOT to know his limitations.

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                    • SoCalDuramax
                      Junior Member
                      • Jan 2017
                      • 14

                      Originally posted by Dee_Dub
                      I heard a rumor that RSO is booking their interviews into 2020... any truth? I hope not
                      My wife booked hers yesterday and it was for May of 2019

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                      • 38Special
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 1539

                        Originally posted by prezm9
                        Yes it did. Was looking into it before it happened and if I remember correctly the wait was around 6 months from call to appointment.
                        Correct, 6 months or less.
                        Mrs 38Special
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                        • Dee_Dub
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 2091

                          Originally posted by SoCalDuramax
                          My wife booked hers yesterday and it was for May of 2019

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                          wow
                          A man's GOT to know his limitations.

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                          • Jayglamis
                            Junior Member
                            • Jun 2016
                            • 3

                            Had my interview today. Went well. Best advise is to just make sure all your paper work is done. My range date is 7-1-17

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                            • SoCalDuramax
                              Junior Member
                              • Jan 2017
                              • 14

                              Received the call today! Here's my timeline:

                              Call to request interview: November 30, 2015
                              Interview: February 21, 2017
                              Livescan: February 21, 2017
                              Class/Range Qualification: March 4th, 2017
                              Approved: June 13, 2017

                              I can't say enough good things about the whole process, from the Deputies in the office and the Safety Class & Range Qual Day. Despite the long wait times they run a good operation with the support and resources they have.

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                              • baggss
                                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 3439

                                Originally posted by TurboS600
                                There are a few people on this site who wouldn't mind helping you out with your GC. However, I believe that everyone here would agree that the best source of help with your GC would be the staff at the RCSO CCW Dept. They are very helpful and honest. Nothing you say or do will be held against you in asking them for their opinion on your GC (except, of course, attempting to hide something about your past that puts you in a bad light...reveal everything). They will give you their honest critique and tell you if it will pass muster. They may even give you some hints on how to strengthen it, put something in, leave something out, etc.

                                Trust me, the CCW staff are pro-2A and WANT you to get approved and will do what it takes to help you get it done. Please just take this one piece of sage advice. Have all of your ducks in a row when you show up for your interview. You've got almost 2 years to get the application and all the requisite documentation in order. Don't wait until the last minute to put it all together. Show up ready with everything listed on the application check list.

                                Good luck.
                                Originally posted by SoCalDuramax
                                Its not an easy question to answer and many keep their specific Good Cause private. I can say that it's obvious a CCW at its root is always for self defense but you will have to provide reasons and justification that are specific to you and your life. So yes, its for self defense but why do you need to specifically carry to defend yourself? Money, geographics, protecting valuable property, etc.

                                Spend some time reading this thread and others and you may pick up on some ideas that resonate with your specific situation.

                                Keep in mind that simple statements based on '2nd Amendment Rights' will not get you anywhere and self-defense without substance won't either. Spend some time on the Sheriff's CCW site, read through the paperwork, applications, etc. and you'll see that self defense alone won't cut it.

                                Also, start typing up justification and support. Use it as a draft, go back and read it a week later, does it still make sense or does it need more? Does it seem vague or are you stretching for reasons? Also keep in mind depending on what you say they may ask for supporting documentation (ie: bank statements for large cash deposits, rental contracts, etc.) to make sure you're not just making stuff up in order to get a permit.

                                As others have said and I can attest to, the Deputies at Riverside County as well as the Safety Class and Range are all pro-carry. They want everyone to have a permit but you have to play by the laws and rules in place. They are there to help but that might only come upon your interview and review of paperwork simply due to there being more applications/renewals and not enough time for them to play Q&A for everyone.

                                It really is a good experience and you just have to be able to justify why you have a need to carry.

                                It just takes some serious thought and of course a lot of time to get through the whole process.

                                Hope this helps!

                                Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk
                                So given the above 2 excellent posts, would either of you, or anyone else here, believe that Riverside is the wrong shape of green on the map below? Read the color definitions and draw your own conclusions since we don't define the terms used, we use the "reasonable man" approach to define the wording. Since both of you seem quite knowledgable, I'd really like your opinions. I know Riverside doesn't use SD=CG but would you say their policy is "relaxed" or "resonable"?


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