That's the same response I get everytime I email them supposedly calling you will get a real answer no a machine response dropped off my application 6/25/22 nothing since except emails that say the same thing when I try contacting them
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When I sent in my training docs, I put "Please confirm receipt" at the end and received a confirmation 2 days later.Comment
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How stringent has LA County been with respect to the "good moral character" aspect? While not prohibited, I don't have a perfectly clean record, either. Are they essentially take a zero-defect approach or something otherwise fairly strict, or are they basically approving most or all people who are simply not prohibited persons? If the former, or if I might fall under an exception to the latter, then I wouldn't want to bother with the expense or hassle of trying to get a permit (I'd be more willing to just try, anyways, if the cost were reasonable and the process much easier). I'm in a contract city, so I can't apply to a local PD.Comment
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How stringent has LA County been with respect to the "good moral character" aspect? While not prohibited, I don't have a perfectly clean record, either. Are they essentially take a zero-defect approach or something otherwise fairly strict, or are they basically approving most or all people who are simply not prohibited persons? If the former, or if I might fall under an exception to the latter, then I wouldn't want to bother with the expense or hassle of trying to get a permit (I'd be more willing to just try, anyways, if the cost were reasonable and the process much easier). I'm in a contract city, so I can't apply to a local PD.
From my understanding lasd are only doing lasd jurisdiction they are no longer doing contact work for ccw anymore i live in a city that also contracted lasd for this but when scotus opened the flood gates they stopped doing other pd ccw unless you applied by a certain date I got my ccw from my local pd if you haven’t already called your local pd you should call and inquire about itLast edited by Rich6863; 09-01-2023, 9:28 AM.Got milkComment
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I'm in a contract city, as in we have a contract with LASD for LE service. No local PD. My question is about the standards LASD is using for GMC.From my understanding lasd are only doing lasd jurisdiction they are no longer doing contact work for ccw anymore i live in a city that also contracted lasd for this but when scotus opened the flood gates they stopped doing other pd ccw unless you applied by a certain date I got my ccw from my local pd if you haven?t already called your local pd you should call and inquire about itComment
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Update: finally got my interview call and was able to do it via phone. Emailed all the requested info (ID, Livescan, Etc.). ?Expect 3-5 months before your proceed to training email?
433 days from mailing it in. They said it was entered in September.Comment
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It's definitely not on the zero-defect side as they've told multiple people they don't care about past or even current marijuana use.Originally posted by Noble CauseCan you imagine Patrick Henry, the "Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death" guy, in today's world, whining about "not joining the NRA because of junk mail" ?!Comment
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I'm sure there are a lot of factors here so hard to give concrete yes/no answers to this kinda thing. I applied almost as a joke since I kept hearing they were handing out permits like hot cakes now and I kinda wanted to see for myself if that were true. Especially knowing I had a couple things on my record.How stringent has LA County been with respect to the "good moral character" aspect? While not prohibited, I don't have a perfectly clean record, either. Are they essentially take a zero-defect approach or something otherwise fairly strict, or are they basically approving most or all people who are simply not prohibited persons? If the former, or if I might fall under an exception to the latter, then I wouldn't want to bother with the expense or hassle of trying to get a permit (I'd be more willing to just try, anyways, if the cost were reasonable and the process much easier). I'm in a contract city, so I can't apply to a local PD.
I haven't yet received my permit but the impression I get is that it's just a formality at this point since my interview, live scan and training are all complete and seem to be satisfactory. So I can't say 100% but, it seems certain to me that you do not need a 100% squeaky clean record.
Based on my personal experience and what some others have posted here:- Having used marijuana is not an issue (current use might be)
- Speeding tickets and other moving violations aren't a problem
- DUI (perhaps other alcohol offenses) is not automatically a disqualification
How recent your offenses are may definitely be a factor. All of mine are 15+yrs ago except for a couple speeding tickets that are only older than about 8yrs. And they likely look at other circumstances - for example a run of the mill DUI may not be a problem but DUI as part of a hit and run + evading the police... something like that I'd imagine would not be good. Also, neglecting to mention your past history will for sure be an issue as it shows you're hiding something. I was 100% open and honest about all the things on my record.
I don't think any of us know for sure where the line is and I bet it's not a line that's easily defined anyway.Comment
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Thank you all. After 14 months, I got the call. Did the interview over the phone. Documents requested over email & 4-5 months later will get proceed to trainingWhat Calbix said... unless you want to go through 16 hours of training and spend more for pysch eval with LAPD then just wait it out.
I sent my app back in July and Im 13 months waiting, but I rather wait for LASD than to apply with LBPD to spend more money to try and get it with the limitation of only 1 firearm to be on the ccw permit.Comment
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The standard as I understand (remember) it are felonies and crimes of "Moral Turpitude".
I think if you disclose everything else, you're ok.
Also, DMV report, Civil litigation, etc. were only scrutinized 5 yrs. previous.
How stringent has LA County been with respect to the "good moral character" aspect? While not prohibited, I don't have a perfectly clean record, either. Are they essentially take a zero-defect approach or something otherwise fairly strict, or are they basically approving most or all people who are simply not prohibited persons? If the former, or if I might fall under an exception to the latter, then I wouldn't want to bother with the expense or hassle of trying to get a permit (I'd be more willing to just try, anyways, if the cost were reasonable and the process much easier). I'm in a contract city, so I can't apply to a local PD."I prefer peace. But if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children can live in peace."
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I really hate talking about it in public, so that's why I didn't give details, but I suppose I'll have to.I'm sure there are a lot of factors here so hard to give concrete yes/no answers to this kinda thing. I applied almost as a joke since I kept hearing they were handing out permits like hot cakes now and I kinda wanted to see for myself if that were true. Especially knowing I had a couple things on my record.
I haven't yet received my permit but the impression I get is that it's just a formality at this point since my interview, live scan and training are all complete and seem to be satisfactory. So I can't say 100% but, it seems certain to me that you do not need a 100% squeaky clean record.
Based on my personal experience and what some others have posted here:- Having used marijuana is not an issue (current use might be)
- Speeding tickets and other moving violations aren't a problem
- DUI (perhaps other alcohol offenses) is not automatically a disqualification
How recent your offenses are may definitely be a factor. All of mine are 15+yrs ago except for a couple speeding tickets that are only older than about 8yrs. And they likely look at other circumstances - for example a run of the mill DUI may not be a problem but DUI as part of a hit and run + evading the police... something like that I'd imagine would not be good. Also, neglecting to mention your past history will for sure be an issue as it shows you're hiding something. I was 100% open and honest about all the things on my record.
I don't think any of us know for sure where the line is and I bet it's not a line that's easily defined anyway.
I had a defensive shooting almost 15 years ago when I was rather young (barely an adult) and faced serious felony charges in the incident and was arrested on that account. By the time we finally got to the cusp of going to trial, being someone with no assets or wealth, and exhausting the help others could provide and my ability to borrow, I was not going to be able to afford my attorney through a trial, and having seen the public defenders in action at various hearings, I felt like I would have been putting myself at risk to use one, so I took a plea deal. From some hardcore felonies I was able to get a deal for disturbing the peace (public fighting), a misdemeanor, punishable via community service. We even negotiated to have firearms prohibitions removed from probation conditions as part of the deal. My attorney said that based on that offer that they clearly knew they didn't have much of a case, but I couldn't afford to take a chance or go through the process.
However, after the deal was done the prosecutor went back to the court and got a restraining order filed against me and they came and took my guns. They claimed two were assault weapons and filed felony charges accordingly. One was an SKS with the standard fixed mag and the other was a FAL with a bullet button (not coincidentally, I found the bullet button to that rifle some time later under the sofa next to where they were taking photos of the guns before packing them up and taking them away when I moved it to steam clean the carpets; f'in' POSs; they also pocketed some of my dad's things, like his surefire light). They also threw in a hi cap mag charge which was thrown out right away due to the offense not even being in the contemporary PC. These were negotiated to misdemeanor AW charges with more community service.
After completion of community service and probation without further incident, all charges were dismissed pursuant to 1203.4. The dismissals were almost a decade ago and the actual convictions are over a decade old.
I have not gotten so much as a ticket in CA since, and only a fix-it ticket outside of CA. I have also been able to DROS firearms, although there are always delays and problems (including going undetermined).Comment
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