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  • Caleb1911
    Member
    • May 2012
    • 137

    Legal Action Regarding Extremely Long Processing Times

    Hi All
    Just a quick question regarding any legal action made in order to speed up the CCW process in L.A. County? The Bruen ruling was extremely clear about the fact that extremely long wait times were unconstitutional and actionable.

    For a little background, I originally applied with LASD in May of 2022 several weeks before the Bruen ruling hit. Fortunately for me, I live in the City of La Verne which is one of the "non-contract" cities that the LA County Sheriff forced to develop their own CCW system. It took La Verne from August of 2022 until February of 2023 to develop their system. I began the CCW process with LVPD on Feb. 24 and was issued a CCW on May 15. This process included doing a psych eval which held the process up 3 weeks because it was overbooked.

    I received my first phone call from the LASD CCW people in June which was 13 months after my application. At that point I already had my CCW from the City of La Verne which had to develop a complete process from scratch!

    We really have to do something about this and as far as I can see the courts are going to be our only option. They need to be made to hurt and to have a court order and a fine laid down on them. They have systematically denied people the right to carry for a hundred years or more. It's their tough luck that they have to now clear a backlog that their unconstitutional policies created in the first place. They need to be forced to do this in a timely fashion.

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    • Fat Old Guy
      Member
      • Mar 2020
      • 292

      Here is my timeline.

      06/26/22 - Dropped App to Lomita Sheriff Station.
      06/28/22 - Money order cashed.
      04/18/23 - Received a call to schedule an interview.
      04/29/23 - Live Scan initiated
      05/01/23 - CCW interview completed.
      04/29/23 - FBI Background completed.
      05/16/23 - CA Background completed.
      05/23/23 - Firearms Background completed.
      08/17/23 - Received Email to proceed to Training
      08/18/23 - Emailed Training Docs to LASD
      sigpic

      1. Treat all guns as if loaded (even when you know they aren't).
      2. Never point the muzzle at anything you aren't willing to destroy.
      3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target.
      4. Know your target and what is beyond it (avoid all collateral damage).

      "Si vis pacem, para bellum" - If you want peace, prepare for war

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      • MR 5.7
        Member
        • Apr 2021
        • 121

        Dropped off my application 6/24/2022 at Lancaster station with LASD have sent multiple emails which have gotten the same response "we will get to your application in the order it is received " almost 14 months now with no call for an interview or anything not sure what is going on in the CCW unit....since I'm seeing people who applied months after me have already been fully through processing and have already been issued ccws I have no criminal record and i am an FFL 03 with a COE and an out of state CCW so i dont think it's a background problem any help is appreciated

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        • idunnosowhat
          Junior Member
          • Nov 2022
          • 35

          Originally posted by MR 5.7
          Dropped off my application 6/24/2022 at Lancaster station with LASD have sent multiple emails which have gotten the same response "we will get to your application in the order it is received " almost 14 months now with no call for an interview or anything not sure what is going on in the CCW unit....since I'm seeing people who applied months after me have already been fully through processing and have already been issued ccws I have no criminal record and i am an FFL 03 with a COE and an out of state CCW so i dont think it's a background problem any help is appreciated
          There is no rhyme or reason on how LASD is processing applications. There literally is nothing you can do but wait. Which is the ****ty part.

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          • rorschach
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2006
            • 4405

            Originally posted by MR 5.7
            Dropped off my application 6/24/2022 at Lancaster station with LASD have sent multiple emails which have gotten the same response "we will get to your application in the order it is received " almost 14 months now with no call for an interview or anything not sure what is going on in the CCW unit....since I'm seeing people who applied months after me have already been fully through processing and have already been issued ccws I have no criminal record and i am an FFL 03 with a COE and an out of state CCW so i dont think it's a background problem any help is appreciated
            From what I?ve been reading, applications that were hand delivered to local LASD stations seem to be delayed a very long time, often months longer than those that were mailed in.
            L.A. County
            Mailed to LASD Hall of Justice: 6/27/2022 received:6/28
            Check cashed: 8/22/2022
            Livescan: 4/22/2023 DOJ 4/22 FBI 4/23 Firearms 4/26
            Call for interview: 5/24/2023 Interview: 5/31/2023
            PTT: 8/21/23 Training submitted 8/27/23
            Call for pickup 10/12/23 Pickup: 11/8/23

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            • alexcue
              Junior Member
              • Sep 2018
              • 17

              Originally posted by MR 5.7
              Dropped off my application 6/24/2022 at Lancaster station with LASD have sent multiple emails which have gotten the same response "we will get to your application in the order it is received " almost 14 months now with no call for an interview or anything not sure what is going on in the CCW unit....since I'm seeing people who applied months after me have already been fully through processing and have already been issued ccws I have no criminal record and i am an FFL 03 with a COE and an out of state CCW so i dont think it's a background problem any help is appreciated
              I’m a newbie.. all I can suggest is be patient for a while longer. Make sure you answer your phone, though they did say they would leave a message. My call just came in this week, she even did the interview over the phone since I was clean. See above for my timeline.
              Last edited by alexcue; 08-19-2023, 7:38 PM. Reason: Grammatical

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              • cynage1
                Junior Member
                • Aug 2015
                • 13

                Originally posted by rorschach
                From what I?ve been reading, applications that were hand delivered to local LASD stations seem to be delayed a very long time, often months longer than those that were mailed in.
                I can attest to this. My application was turned into local station in July 2022, check was cashed by station 3 days later. But, was told that my application wasn't "entered into the system" until December.

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                • Fullsend
                  Junior Member
                  • Aug 2021
                  • 9

                  Originally posted by cynage1
                  I can attest to this. My application was turned into local station in July 2022, check was cashed by station 3 days later. But, was told that my application wasn't "entered into the system" until December.
                  My dad handed his app to local sheriff a week after I mailed my to the hall of Justice, and he’s had his interview and proceed to training email already.. and I haven’t even had my call for interview.

                  I mailed my app the day Bruen passed.

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                  • Fullsend
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2021
                    • 9

                    Originally posted by cynage1
                    I can attest to this. My application was turned into local station in July 2022, check was cashed by station 3 days later. But, was told that my application wasn't "entered into the system" until December.
                    My dad handed his app to local sheriff a week after I mailed my to the hall of Justice, and he?s had his interview and proceed to training email already.. and I haven?t even had my call for interview.

                    I mailed my app the day Bruen passed.

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                    • Maverick.8Four
                      Junior Member
                      • Dec 2021
                      • 41

                      Just got the call for pickup set for tomorrow. For everyone patiently waiting, look at my timeline. It really is a waiting game but they’ll eventually get to you. Imo, this time can be used for training, be it with your soon to be carry weapons, training in medical and training in alternative forms of self-defense. Next to that, dollar cost averaging into good quality carry ammo. Good luck!
                      12/18/21: app walked-in and check processed by deputy
                      09/15/22: received call for interview
                      10/5/22: Interviewed at Monterey Park
                      10/5/22: DOJ & FBI Livescan complete
                      10/7/22: Firearms complete
                      02/27/23: Proceed to Training email (apparently LASD sent this in early January)
                      04/22/23: Training complete
                      04/26/23: Completed Certs submitted to LASD
                      05/02/23: Training docs received after follow-up email
                      08/22/23: Issued and picked up

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                      • Veecious
                        Junior Member
                        • May 2022
                        • 56

                        Mon, Jun 13, 2022 - Application mailed
                        Tue, Jun 14, 2022 - Application delivered
                        Fri, Jul 22, 2022 - Money order cashed
                        Tue, Apr 25, 2023 - Call for interview
                        Tue, May 16, 2023 - Interview
                        Mon, Aug 21, 2023 - Proceed to training / E-mailed in training docs

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                        • rorschach
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 4405

                          Got my PTT email today, sig and spreadsheet updated.
                          L.A. County
                          Mailed to LASD Hall of Justice: 6/27/2022 received:6/28
                          Check cashed: 8/22/2022
                          Livescan: 4/22/2023 DOJ 4/22 FBI 4/23 Firearms 4/26
                          Call for interview: 5/24/2023 Interview: 5/31/2023
                          PTT: 8/21/23 Training submitted 8/27/23
                          Call for pickup 10/12/23 Pickup: 11/8/23

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                          • Maustro
                            Junior Member
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 21

                            Not really an update but I called again today.
                            Application mailed 6/25/22
                            Delivered 6/27/22
                            Crickets...
                            Completed Live Scan in March 2023
                            Called mid July 2023 and they said I was entered into the system in September, expect a call soon, they're finishing up August
                            Called again today, they repeated the same thing and that they're finishing up September...expect a call in the next few weeks

                            Late July I got a call from LAPD to schedule my interview (that I applied for in March 2023), but it was for December so I told them to hold off. Figured I might as well continue with LASD. Not sure if that was the best decision, but it seems like LASD is doing phone interviews so hoping I get that over with soon.

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                            • Maverick.8Four
                              Junior Member
                              • Dec 2021
                              • 41

                              Picked up today. Female sheriff was very polite and professional though short in conversation; she?s obviously got her system down and moves super efficiently. Called my name right on the dot of my appointment time. Just confirmed info I provided in my initial app, thumb print and signatures. There was only one lady waiting and was in and out of there in less than 10 minutes. I?d highly recommend getting there 30min early. I got lucky with parking but it looks like it?d be a pain on busier days. Good luck to those in the pipeline!
                              12/18/21: app walked-in and check processed by deputy
                              09/15/22: received call for interview
                              10/5/22: Interviewed at Monterey Park
                              10/5/22: DOJ & FBI Livescan complete
                              10/7/22: Firearms complete
                              02/27/23: Proceed to Training email (apparently LASD sent this in early January)
                              04/22/23: Training complete
                              04/26/23: Completed Certs submitted to LASD
                              05/02/23: Training docs received after follow-up email
                              08/22/23: Issued and picked up

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                              • Bangzoom
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 6742

                                i went to the sheriffs website to download the application but saw an option to fill it out online so I did that on Aug 13, 2023....i was also asked to choose my interview date and time....the soonest one i could get was in February 2024 and i was instructed to have the livescan done before the interview..
                                But I did not get my interview location yet...anybody know when they will let me know?
                                Last edited by Bangzoom; 08-22-2023, 4:23 PM.

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