MERGED THREADS "Bullet Button Assault Weapon" Regs

[xfer42]

Ah man. Does this mean Ill have to relocate my bullet button to the side of the stock?

[deadlift350]

So if i'm reading this right:

1) featureless is okay

2) bb 2.0 , bb reloaded, maglock, etc are okay.


If i go featureless, and dont like it, can i go back to maglock? or maglock to featureless, as both are okay to make/possess ?

[-aK-]

Remember:

1 if by land
2 if by sea

[deadlift350]

I'm going to wait for the opinion from Michael and Associates. It seems they did WAY more here than just make BB equiped rifles an AW.

where do i go to keep up to date with their opinions?

[Cokebottle]

#1- I don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

#2- This reg does not conform to 30900(b)(1) and 30680 statutory language.

#3- I don't look a gift horse in the mouth.
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IMHO, this confirms that the legislative intent of the extremely poorly phrased language covering registration was to prohibit late registration of a 1989-2000 AW that was "overlooked" and to exclude 2017 builds.

[JeffSD]

Who ever could have seen this outrage coming?! LOL California.

[calimayno]

What people need to do is upload a picture of their big fat middle finger with numbers on it and tell them to register that.

[Librarian]

Sounds like they allow joint registrations too.

" Registration of Assault Weapons Pursuant to Penal Code Section 30900(b)(1); Joint Registration of Assault Weapons

(a) If a firearm will be jointly registered one family member must be identified as the primary registrant and the name and relationship of each joint registrant must be provided.
(b) All joint registrants must be 18 years of age by December 31, 2017. Joint registrations are only authorized for the following family relationships:

(1) Spouse
(2) Parent to Child
(3) Child to Parent
(4) Grandparent to Grandchild
(5) Grandchild to Grandparent
(6) Domestic Partner
(7) Siblings

Note that they require 'proof of residence' and a DL is not acceptable.

Acceptable forms of proof of address are as follows:
(1) Carry Concealed Weapon (CCW Permit
(2) Curio and Relic (C & R1 Federal firearm license with name :and address
(3) Utility Bill: Cable, electricity garbage, gas, pipeline, propane, alarm/security or water bill with purchaser's name on it and dated within three months of application
for registration.
(4) Military permanent duty station orders indicating assignment within California:
active duty military spouse ID is not acceptable
(5) Property Deed: Valid deed or trust for the individual's property or a certificate of title
(6) Resident Hunting License
(7) Signed .and dated rental agreement/contract or residential lease
(8) Trailer certification of title
(9) DMV Vehicle Registration
(10) Certificate of Eligibility, as defined in section 4031, subdivision (g) of Chapter 3.

How many live-at-home children have other proof of residency?

[Dump1567]

..to all the people who thought they are super smart and know everything who went on and on defending their claims that we can have 26" rifles and no mag locks. Then talked crap to the people who said we might have to keep them on after registration.

I saw the not changing out your mag-lock, but I didn't see anything about not going under 30 inches once registered. Did I miss it?

[terminal2000]

If you don't care and fight this, you'll have registered featureless rifle a few years later. How about that?

Don't play, go featureless. They will over reach.

[FABIO GETS GOOSED!!!]

I would think so. When installed to meet prior CA regulations, it required the use of a tool to remove the magazine.

A Raddlock requires a tool to remove an ammunition feeding device or magazine by depressing a recessed button or lever shielded by a magazine lock. A Raddlock also does not require a tool to remove an ammunition feeding device or magazine by depressing a recessed button or lever shielded by a magazine lock. So, does it meet the definition of "bullet button" for purposes of registration of bullet button firearms? I can't say definitively.

[ifilef]

Can someone give their take on the significance of 5471(m)?

First paragraph my take is that a BB is not a detachable magazine. But not fixed magazine either (and specifically 'referred to' in 30900(b)(1) as registrable as AW and in 301515 as an AW.).

Second paragraph of it I'm having some difficulty.

What are they saying?

And what's the significance of attaching that magnet button to the BB in light of today's regulations? Assume registration as an AW first. Lawful? Unlawful? Beats me..

[Shadowdrop]

So here's the game the CA DOJ is playing: They realize their regulations cannot be enforced through the penal code. Nothing in the law prevents someone from modifying their BB AW to a non-BB AW. Nothing in the penal code says there are changes about OAL measurements.

HOWEVER: CA DOJ holds the keys to the clubhouse. If you don't play by their rules, no registration for you! If you try to get cute, they can prevent you from being able to register your gun until 2018 and you'll be SOL. If you modify the rifle after registration, they'll claim it as automatically de-registered it and is now an illegal AW (which is funny that for a lawful de-registration they are requiring photos and various hoops jumped through).

Hopefully, they can be slapped into playing by the LAW and not their own rules.

[God Bless America]

..to all the people who thought they are super smart and know everything who went on and on defending their claims that we can have 26" rifles and no mag locks. Then talked crap to the people who said we might have to keep them on after registration.

They are not done talking crap or being wrong.

[Sousuke]

Read the second paragraph of 5471(m).

I see that but don't see where the new regulations penalize it.