Single Shot Exemption Explanation/Database Thread

[JoeCA]

Can a Seecamp 380 can be converted to single shot?

[Haplo]

No ban on long guns.

[3gunHopeful]

To register an 80% lower, is it only required to finish milling out the lower? Or do you need to have the lower completed and attached to a working upper? Do they need to see the gun?

What's to stop someone from engraving 3 uncompleted uppers, and then filing paperwork for those? Or simply registering a bunch of homemade lowers that don't actually exist yet?

Does the 30 day rule apply to registering homemade SSE's as well?

I kind of want to just get 5 or 6 80% lowers and register them all at once.

Sorry about all the questions. Newbie to AR pistols.

[Yober]

Does this affect pistols purchased via SSE prior to this date? I'm not sure how to interpret this provision, it sounds retroactive:

Requires that, commencing January 1, 2010, all semiautomatic pistols that are not already listed on the roster be designed and equipped with a microscopic array of characters that identify the make, model, and serial number of the pistol, etched or otherwise imprinted in two or more places on the interior surface or internal working parts of the pistol, and that are transferred by imprinting on each cartridge case when the firearm is fired, provided that the DOJ certifies that the technology used to create the imprint is available to more than one manufacturer unencumbered by any patent restrictions. On May 17, 2013, DOJ issued that certification.

[Citizen_B]

Does this affect pistols purchased via SSE prior to this date?

No. SSE is an exemption from the roster. For guns to be added to CA handgun roster, they need microstamping. Microstamping doesn't have anything to do with SSEs. Microstamping requirement is not retroactively needed either.

Simply put, this bill ONLY puts a restriction on SSEs going forward.

[Cyc Wid It]

No.

Also, some changes regarding various shop capacities etc.

[Shak180]

How does this new law effect AR pistols built on 80% lower receivers? Past or present

[3gunHopeful]

I believe that you are required to register your pistols in California within 30 days.

There is no legal way to make an ar pistol come January.

But what is the penalty for having an unregistered pistol?

[ke6guj]

I believe that you are required to register your pistols in California within 30 days.

that belief would be incorrect.

There is no legal way to make an ar pistol come January.

that's not clear yet.

But what is the penalty for having an unregistered pistol?

unless you are illegally CCW'ing that unregistered pistol, there is no crime for having a CA-legal unregistered pistol.

[3gunHopeful]

Oh, that's a relief. The 80% lower route would be my preferred route anyway.

[superbart3000]

I have a question, lets say I have completed lowers made from 80%, and they were made before this law takes effect, but they are not currently engraved with serial numbers or registered. Am I going to have any issue in the future, since I cannot prove when I made this lower?

If I engrave them later, will I be able to register them, since they were manufactured prior to this law, just never registered? I figure since I would be voluntarily registering it, and I already legally owned it unregistered, I should be able at any point in the future register it, as long as I state on the form that I made it before the law went through? Right?

[superbart3000]

Does anyone know a good FFL in socal, that will accept out of state SSE pistol transfers?

[found.a.wall]

Where about in so cal??

[superbart3000]

I am in the LA area, but I'm willing to drive 30-40 miles. I'd drive further if I had to, but it will be hard, since I would have to make at least 2 trips. 1 to dros, and 1 to pickup.

[found.a.wall]

I know for a fact that Riflegear does, but to be perfectly honest, your best bet is to call around to your local FFLs and ask if they do/don't and what they charge to receive, DROS. Since your in the L.A. area, try the gun shop @ THE ANGELES RANGES on little tujunga cnyn rd, they may also. Good luck.