Single Shot Exemption Explanation/Database Thread

[joker713]

I'm really trying to get my hands on a 9mm Shield. Does anyone know if any of the dealers are doing sse on them yet? I see a few that list the 40 cal version but not the 9

[taifei]

Is there any other Bay Area ffl that do sse on gen 4 glocks? I already contacted the places on the list and just seeing if there's any other deals out there (location or price wise)

[dundadun]

Soooo if all a lever action pistol needs is a wooden dowel to make it single shot, what to keep dowels in revolver cylinders from making a chiappa rhino a single shot gun?

Like a wooden dowel with a set screw or something so it requires a tool?

[kemasa]

There is an exemption for single action revolvers, which might be easier.

[dundadun]

There is an exemption for single action revolvers, which might be easier.

The rhino's internals don't really allow for the word "easier" to apply. It's not really anything like other revolvers that can take a new SA hammer kit.

[kemasa]

The rhino's internals don't really allow for the word "easier" to apply. It's not really anything like other revolvers that can take a new SA hammer kit.

Well, then I suppose you could plug the other cylinders. A rubber plug and a screw to "lock" it in place might work. You would have to get your FFL to agree to that though.

[dundadun]

That's it? Nice. I need to bug some ffl's

[Lu(ky]

Hey guys just a couple of quick questions on SSE stuff
1. I have already purchase (two) SSE guns already (RifleGear Glock Gen 4) and (OC Armory S&W M&P 40L 5") My question doing another one will it put up RED FLAGS with DROS?
2. I found a Springfield XDs 9mm at RifleGear can I purchase from them to ship to OC Armory to do the SSE?
Thanks

[Cyc Wid It]

1. No.
2. Yes, if OC Armory is willing to convert them for you.

[kemasa]

As to #1, I would say that it is unknown, but nothing I have heard indicates that it could be a red flag. In other words, I would not worry about it unless you are doing it a lot and perhaps selling the firearms a short time later. A lot is an unknown quantity :-).

[morrcarr67]

Hey guys just a couple of quick questions on SSE stuff
1. I have already purchase (two) SSE guns already (RifleGear Glock Gen 4) and (OC Armory S&W M&P 40L 5") My question doing another one will it put up RED FLAGS with DROS?
2. I found a Springfield XDs 9mm at RifleGear can I purchase from them to ship to OC Armory to do the SSE?
Thanks

As long as it's been 30 days since yiur last buy you're good to go.

[Doubledown21]

07 FFL is no longer required per the legal beagles, the OP states this as well, I should make it more clear. Note, you should DEFINITELY check with whatever shop you plan to use to make sure they are expecting your item/can do the conversion/are willing to do the conversion etc.

Forum vendor New Frontier Armory has been added to the list.

I have read through the entire thread as well as BWeise's legal posts on SSE and I understand the process and how it is in fact following the law however, there is one item I need clarification on that I hope I didn't miss. The above post is closest post to my question.
I want to know how it is not importing an unsafe firearm when I am able to purchase an off-roster pistol (from a willing out of state dealer) and have it shipped (without SSE mods) to my willing conversion FFL to do the conversion. My initial take was, since I was paying for the firearm and having it shipped into the state when I am not an FFL or LEO/exempt it would be importing.
Is it that the firearm is technically not mine until I take possession from the FFL post conversion thus making it exempt, even though I am the one who purchased/shipped it?
... Or am I miss reading and I should have the FFL order the firearm from my chosen dealer, receive and perform the SSE mods then I purchase the firearm from them?
Again, sorry if I missed it somewhere in the threads I just want to legal reason before placing my order. Thanks

[morrcarr67]

I have read through the entire thread as well as BWeise's legal posts on SSE and I understand the process and how it is in fact following the law however, there is one item I need clarification on that I hope I didn't miss. The above post is closest post to my question.
I want to know how it is not importing an unsafe firearm when I am able to purchase an off-roster pistol (from a willing out of state dealer) and have it shipped (without SSE mods) to my willing conversion FFL to do the conversion. My initial take was, since I was paying for the firearm and having it shipped into the state when I am not an FFL or LEO/exempt it would be importing.
Is it that the firearm is technically not mine until I take possession from the FFL post conversion thus making it exempt, even though I am the one who purchased/shipped it?
... Or am I miss reading and I should have the FFL order the firearm from my chosen dealer, receive and perform the SSE mods then I purchase the firearm from them?
Again, sorry if I missed it somewhere in the threads I just want to legal reason before placing my order. Thanks

The bold red is the right answer.

It is legal for non roster gun to come into the state. They are sold to people that are exempt or may be converted to an exempt firearm.

It would be illegal for the dealer who receives it to offer it for sale and transfer it to someone that is not roster exempt.

[Doubledown21]

The bold red is the right answer.

It is legal for non roster gun to come into the state. They are sold to people that are exempt or may be converted to an exempt firearm.

It would be illegal for the dealer who receives it to offer it for sale and transfer it to someone that is not roster exempt.

I guess I was hung up on the "sold" term where it was actually sold to me and the FFL is just performing a modification and transfer. Sounds as though the state doesn't care who pays for what and ownership is solely determined by the "transfer" and that date. Thanks for the fast response.

[LBDamned]

I guess I was hung up on the "sold" term where it was actually sold to me and the FFL is just performing a modification and transfer. Sounds as though the state doesn't care who pays for what and ownership is solely determined by the "transfer" and that date. Thanks for the fast response.

it's not yours until you pass DROS anyway... so the fact that you paid for it and had it shipped here doesn't give you a right to it... it can be sent back (or kept by FFL) if you are denied DROS.

Once you pass DROS and the pistol is configured legally - then it's yours.