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  • #91
    Firearms
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 2

    I want to buy a NAA .22 Short. I've tried almost all of the FFLs on the list in addition to many others, but I've had no luck yet; all of them don't want to modify it, except for 1, but he wanted to charge me $1,000 for just the work alone. Can anybody recommend me a good FFL that might be willing to do this at a reasonable price? Preferably in the Los Angeles area, but really anywhere is fine.
    Thanks!

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    • #92
      ke6guj
      Moderator
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Nov 2003
      • 23725

      Originally posted by Firearms
      I want to buy a NAA .22 Short. I've tried almost all of the FFLs on the list in addition to many others, but I've had no luck yet; all of them don't want to modify it, except for 1, but he wanted to charge me $1,000 for just the work alone. Can anybody recommend me a good FFL that might be willing to do this at a reasonable price? Preferably in the Los Angeles area, but really anywhere is fine.
      Thanks!
      how do you expect them to make it exempt? Its way too short to fall under any of the exemptions.
      Jack



      Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

      No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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      • #93
        Firearms
        Junior Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 2

        If they extend the barrel 4 inches, it'll be excempt. I found a place that could do it, but it was way too expensive. Any recommendations?
        Last edited by Firearms; 07-08-2011, 1:12 AM. Reason: Spelling

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        • #94
          oso grande
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 868

          Would it be possible to avoid the FTF transfer required for off roster pistols, by converting them to single shot or single action?
          Thanks,
          OG

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          • #95
            Cyc Wid It
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 4485

            Originally posted by oso grande
            Would it be possible to avoid the FTF transfer required for off roster pistols, by converting them to single shot or single action?
            Thanks,
            OG
            Yes. The main point of SSE is to allow for shipped purchase of non-rostered handguns.
            WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19

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            • #96
              para38super
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 614

              TAG!

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              • #97
                bwiese
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Oct 2005
                • 27621

                Originally posted by Direct Action Solutions
                We are a shop in SO CAL called Direct Action Solutions. We are currently doing single shot conversions as well. So far we have the HK45, the FNP-45, AR pistols, Draco Pistols, and most 1911's. If we can be of any help to you guys just let us know.

                Our shop is in Solana Beach. Give us a call at 858-436-7088.

                Thank you for being a Leadership FFL.

                As long as you toe the line and do things methodically (i.e, don't cut corners on blockage or dimensional compliance) you are covered by CGF if you perchace get harrassed by any agency for this matter [although that seems to have passed, DOJ grudgingly acknowleges legality, and we have agents expressing three different opinions on aspects of the matter in four separate videotapes :-) ]

                Bill Wiese
                San Jose, CA

                CGF Board Member / NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA life member
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                • #98
                  bwiese
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 27621

                  Originally posted by Firearms
                  I want to buy a NAA .22 Short. I've tried almost all of the FFLs on the list in addition to many others, but I've had no luck yet; all of them don't want to modify it, except for 1, but he wanted to charge me $1,000 for just the work alone. Can anybody recommend me a good FFL that might be willing to do this at a reasonable price? Preferably in the Los Angeles area, but really anywhere is fine.
                  Thanks!

                  Your problem is not your FFL, it's with your gun - you've picked a difficult gun.

                  It's simply way too short, and would need an extended barrel to get to the minimum barrel length and min. overall length - and such a barrel is not a drop-in situation.

                  The only way I could see doing this is to drill out the barrel, tack weld in a long 22 rifled bore liner in (that actually WORKS/fires safely), and then after transfer, chop it and recrown.

                  This is SIGNIFICANT work and kinda mutilating a quality gun.

                  Either as a single-action revolver or single-action pistol, it will be hard to make this gun Roster-exempt. Snubnosed 'detective' revolvers are similarly problematic due to the 3" min barrel length / 7.5" min overall length for the dimensional compliance portion of the single-action revolver Roster exemption.

                  ("Single-shotting" a revolver is likely something that is difficult if not possible nor is recommended - unless you can fabricate/install a non-rotating single shot 'slab' chamber to replace the cylinder, which is quite an effort.)

                  Bill Wiese
                  San Jose, CA

                  CGF Board Member / NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA life member
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                  legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                  • #99
                    Snoopy47
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 3846

                    Originally posted by Firearms
                    I want to buy a NAA .22 Short. I've tried almost all of the FFLs on the list in addition to many others, but I've had no luck yet
                    Well, the problem with that is it's a tiny revolver. So it's not as easy as simply dropping in an extended barrel, locking in a single round magazine in place, and calling it done.

                    Also, how are YOU going to convert it back?

                    platforms that already have 6 inch after market barrels, and would meet the 10 inch overall length with said after market barrels are the only reasonable modifications without going crazy.
                    Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.

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                    • bwiese
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 27621

                      Originally posted by Snoopy47
                      platforms that already have 6 inch after market barrels, and would meet the 10 inch overall length with said after market barrels are the only reasonable modifications without going crazy.
                      And revolvers whose actions can be converted to single-action revolvers, and who are already dimensionally compliant in terms of barrel length/overall length.

                      Changing a barrel on a revolver takes some gunsmithing effort and still can be a ***** on older (valuable, quality) guns so much so that you don't wanna do it.

                      Bill Wiese
                      San Jose, CA

                      CGF Board Member / NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA life member
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                      legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                      • Direct Action Solutions
                        Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 441

                        News on single shot conversions at DAS:

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                        • oso grande
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 868

                          SOS

                          Nothings changed. I got all excited about being able to import some DA Smith & Wessons into our great state.
                          Turns out, nobody's willing convert a Revolver, let alone allow the buyer to do it himself.
                          So, like so many of our little schemes; this one sinks back down to the bottom of the swamp.

                          OG
                          Last edited by oso grande; 08-02-2011, 10:11 PM.

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                          • emgee00
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 2745

                            Originally posted by oso grande
                            Nothings changed. I got all excited about being able to import some DA Smith & Wessons into or great state.
                            Turns out, nobody's willing convert a Revolver, let alone allow the buyer to do it himself.
                            So, like so many of our little schemes; this one sinks back down to the bottom of the swamp.

                            OG
                            I hate to ask the stupid questions all the time.....

                            How do you accomplish a single shot revolver? I would imagine it would possibly be more trouble than it is worth. If not, I would love to know as I have a scheming mind too

                            I have my eyes set on several different Taurus Revolvers. The only stupid thing is out of the bazillion models they have only a dozen or two are on the list!
                            WTB: Taurus Tracker in .17 HMR

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                            • oso grande
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 868

                              Originally posted by emgee00
                              I hate to ask the stupid questions all the time.....

                              How do you accomplish a single shot revolver? I would imagine it would possibly be more trouble than it is worth. If not, I would love to know as I have a scheming mind too

                              I have my eyes set on several different Taurus Revolvers. The only stupid thing is out of the bazillion models they have only a dozen or two are on the list!
                              A revolver would be converted to "single action"and thus be exempt.
                              Problem is...no one does it.

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                              • Table Rock Arms
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 812

                                Originally posted by oso grande
                                Nothings changed. I got all excited about being able to import some DA Smith & Wessons into our great state.
                                Turns out, nobody's willing convert a Revolver, let alone allow the buyer to do it himself.
                                So, like so many of our little schemes; this one sinks back down to the bottom of the swamp.

                                OG
                                I thought I read in another thread that this was being done. It is a sticky I believe.

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