Single Shot Exemption Explanation/Database Thread

[Gaspasser100]

I was just @ Sportsman supply in campbell doing a ppt. Surprised to hear that
1. SSE illegal since technically converting gun, would need to change serial number

2. With microstamping, any current gun on DOJ list that needs renewal, will need microstamp?

Are they spouting. BS?

[Strykeback]

I was just @ Sportsman supply in campbell doing a ppt. Surprised to hear that
1. SSE illegal since technically converting gun, would need to change serial number

2. With microstamping, any current gun on DOJ list that needs renewal, will need microstamp?

Are they spouting. BS?

As long as the company keeps renewing their rostered pistol it will stay on there. Glocks gen3s would have been off the list since they don't meet current specs just like their latest gen4s if that was the case.

I've never seen a single sse have their serial number changed.

[kemasa]

Changing parts does not require a new serial number. If it was considered manufacturing, then the FFL doing the manufacturing would have to mark the firearm with their information. There was some question as to whether it was manufacturing or not, but I was told that it is not from those responsible for making such a determination.

[norcalcyclist]

I was just @ Sportsman supply in campbell doing a ppt. Surprised to hear that
1. SSE illegal since technically converting gun, would need to change serial number

2. With microstamping, any current gun on DOJ list that needs renewal, will need microstamp?

Are they spouting. BS?

Sounds like FUD to me....

[FourT6and2]

I was just @ Sportsman supply in campbell doing a ppt. Surprised to hear that
1. SSE illegal since technically converting gun, would need to change serial number

2. With microstamping, any current gun on DOJ list that needs renewal, will need microstamp?

Are they spouting. BS?

No, SSE does not require that you change serial number. It is not considered manufacturing. It is literally swapping barrels. If that were considered manufacturing, then replacing a worn out or damaged barrel with a new one would also be manufacturing.

That FFL is full of it.

[kemasa]

No, SSE does not require that you change serial number. It is not considered manufacturing. It is literally swapping barrels. If that were considered manufacturing, then replacing a worn out or damaged barrel with a new one would also be manufacturing.

That FFL is full of it.

It might be that they are working with old information. If you look at the BATF FAQ for manufacturing, you would see some strange cases of manufacturing, as well as outdated information, such as that it would be manufacturing if you replaced the trigger assembly (which has changed, but the FAQ has not).

The issue before was that the barrel is not the same size as the previous barrel, which could be considered a change, not a simple replacement.

[ke6guj]

Changing parts does not require a new serial number. If it was considered manufacturing, then the FFL doing the manufacturing would have to mark the firearm with their information. There was some question as to whether it was manufacturing or not, but I was told that it is not from those responsible for making such a determination.

and even then, they should be able to re-use the existing serial number.

just like when an 07/02SOT takes an existing Title I firearm and modifies it into a new Title II firearm like an AOW/SBR/SBS, they can re-use the existing serial and only need to mark their name, city, state on it.

[Gaspasser100]

Thanks, I tried to tell them, but it wasn't worth the aggravation. I even mentioned several nearby stores at did SSE. One employee's reply was that the DOJ would eventually go after me and even saidnthatbwas what happened with the store that closed in Santa Clara earlier this year.

They also had a print out of the micro stamping law and were telling their customers to buy semi autos now as you might not be able to get them.

[FourT6and2]

Thanks, I tried to tell them, but it wasn't worth the aggravation. I even mentioned several nearby stores at did SSE. One employee's reply was that the DOJ would eventually go after me and even saidnthatbwas what happened with the store that closed in Santa Clara earlier this year.

They also had a print out of the micro stamping law and were telling their customers to buy semi autos now as you might not be able to get them.

Just get your SSE done at another shop. I had no issues with my SSE that I did a few months ago. For some reason, many gun shops just don't know what they're doing. Those are the ones that will eventually go out of business.

[Strykeback]

They either don't want to take the time or not deal with extra paperwork but either way they are trying to scare you into buying only what they have in the case. Don't do business with a shop like that.

[Cyc Wid It]

There is a 99.9% chance of anything you hear at a gunshop contradicting the information in this thread is false. This isn't a matter of me bragging, although I do my best to keep all of the information as up to date as possible. If something changes regarding the process from a legal standpoint and I miss it for any reason, helpful members/mods will let me know or correct anything as needed.

That said, it's always good to be sure you understand everything before proceeding.

[Damn True]

I experienced similar FUD the other day in a LGS when discussing a potential SSE with another shop. Counter guy's assertion was that DOJ would come after me for owning what is (post conversion back to OE config) an "illegal firearm". When asked for citation of that actually happening........crickets.

[nerv101]

I'm new to this forum. I just purchased a Walther PPQ m2 from Select Guns in KY. I found a shop in SoCal to do the SSE. I'm not sure how long this will take but I'll let you know how things go.

[cire raeb]

I'm new to this forum. I just purchased a Walther PPQ m2 from Select Guns in KY. I found a shop in SoCal to do the SSE. I'm not sure how long this will take but I'll let you know how things go.

For SoCal I recommend EBR Works, Michael and Michelle know what they are doing. Most of my handguns are SSE b/c I refuse to buy the California Girlyman edition.

[nerv101]

Darn. I wished I knew this info beforehand. I went with a shop near my home called Orange County Firearms. I asked him about SSE and he explained exactly what it was. He said he's done them for Glock g4.