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  • Cool Beans
    Junior Member
    • May 2014
    • 40

    Originally posted by Nopal
    Do they also check the neighbors for red-flags of a hostile neighbor who does not wish you well?

    For DV, criminal activity, etc., there's a justice system. Sheriffs are part of it, are they not? They receive the calls generated by your neighbors if there is any suspicious activity, do they not? California is an at-will employment state where your employer can fire you if "red flags" become a problem, is it not?

    Funny, you can't even take away children from a divorce parent on drugs unless there is concrete evidence, proven in court, and even then it's an uphill battle, but you can remove a fundamental right based on what the neighbor said event though there is no court trail or arrest record to justify it?
    Not just neighbors, but what about Red Flags against a hostile HR? I've taken legal action against our HR Director and she was publicly humiliated. She's not a member of my fan club.

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    • Cinder
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2015
      • 18

      Originally posted by ScottyDoesntMow
      I'll ask at my interview tomorrow and report back.
      Thanks, that'd be much appreciated.

      Originally posted by Cool Beans
      Not just neighbors, but what about Red Flags against a hostile HR? I've taken legal action against our HR Director and she was publicly humiliated. She's not a member of my fan club.
      l'm not exactly sure but you should be ready and willing to explain your situation because on the application (section 2, question 5) it asks, "Are you now, or have you been, a party to a lawsuit in the last five years? If yes, please explain."

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      • Cool Beans
        Junior Member
        • May 2014
        • 40

        Originally posted by daeji5
        I can and do understand why the county is sending out these letters, but why are they stating that it is for a concealed carry weapon. Doesn't that defeat the purpose? When everyone knows you're concealing a firearm?
        Especially when asking your neighbors. I was home when the officer came by and I heard everything (my walls are thin). My neighbor across the street also approached me and asked about my ccw permit.

        Again, I understand why they ask, but there's gotta be another way to keep it a bit more discreet. Or maybe I'm in the wrong.
        Do you consider yourself to be your employer's property? If not, why do you need a permission slip from your employer to exercise your rights? It's not their decision to make. It's none of their business.

        ETA: not criticizing you, we're stuck with these rules for now, I just don't think anybody should think they're acceptable or reasonable.
        Last edited by Cool Beans; 08-12-2015, 3:16 AM. Reason: ETA

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        • Cool Beans
          Junior Member
          • May 2014
          • 40

          Originally posted by Cinder
          Thanks, that'd be much appreciated.



          l'm not exactly sure but you should be ready and willing to explain your situation because on the application (section 2, question 5) it asks, "Are you now, or have you been, a party to a lawsuit in the last five years? If yes, please explain."
          Never made it that far. Two separate events. She got slapped down hard both times and it was made worth my while not to pursue things further. Among other things she's barred from having any interactions with me. I had a good lawyer.

          I still intend to discuss it with SBSD when the time comes just in case. I don't know if she'll get the form or if one of her underlings will get it. I don't trust her. To be honest I don't know how she still has a job.

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          • Nopal
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 666

            If the standard state application asks for an explanation of a court action then fine (for now). It is what it is. The application certainly does not require the Sheriff to contact your employer, much less ask for their opinion and inform them about your intent to obtain a permit and all the other things the Sheriff does that aren't outlined in the law.

            I understand that we have a process that has problems but the sheriff does hand out permits. I understand and expect that people use it. In fact, as many people as possible should apply and get their permits. However, what is disconcerting is that people are actually OK with the problems and OK with a sheriff that refuses to get rid of those problems.

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            • ScottyDoesntMow
              Member
              • Dec 2014
              • 199

              Originally posted by Cinder
              Thanks, that'd be much appreciated.
              So, as far as I understand, the new rate applies to folks who will be interviewing starting in November. You'll be good at the original fee.

              Other than that, the interview went well, I think. The detective didn't seem too thrilled that I carried my old CCP from North Carolina in my wallet, but otherwise I think everything was kosher. Fingers crossed!

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              • Cinder
                Junior Member
                • Feb 2015
                • 18

                Thanks for the info. I am guessing Detective Logan interviewed you?

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                • Cokebottle
                  Señor Member
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 32373

                  Originally posted by Cinder
                  What the f.... dammit. Thanks for the heads up. Good thing I didn't go get my last money order yet. I wonder if the new pricing applies to the people who already paid the 20% ($29.20) before the price increase.
                  Crap.
                  I got my MO's last week and my interview is at 8am
                  - Rich

                  Originally posted by dantodd
                  A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                  • Cinder
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2015
                    • 18

                    If what Scotty said is true, you should still be good to go since you are interviewing way earlier than november.

                    "So, as far as I understand, the new rate applies to folks who will be interviewing starting in November."
                    -ScottyDoesntMow

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                    • ScottyDoesntMow
                      Member
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 199

                      Yes, Detective Logan. Cokebottle, you'll be good to go.

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                      • Cokebottle
                        Señor Member
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 32373

                        Yup. It was a little intimidating, but it was strictly business. I think I waited longer for the Livescan than I spent at the counter.

                        We'll find out in 90 days
                        - Rich

                        Originally posted by dantodd
                        A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                        • venom12784
                          Junior Member
                          • Feb 2015
                          • 96

                          When they take your are the lights still blindingly bright

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                          • JDFRotten
                            Junior Member
                            • May 2015
                            • 10

                            Originally posted by Cokebottle
                            Yup. It was a little intimidating, but it was strictly business. I think I waited longer for the Livescan than I spent at the counter.

                            We'll find out in 90 days
                            Yeah, Detective Logan is intimidating. I felt the same way. I felt like she wasn't buying the idea that I was a good guy. Maybe the tattoos, shaved head and long goatee had some influence.

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                            • venom12784
                              Junior Member
                              • Feb 2015
                              • 96

                              So it wasn't just me that felt that way. No woman has ever made me feel that way.

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                              • Cinder
                                Junior Member
                                • Feb 2015
                                • 18

                                Originally posted by JDFRotten
                                Yeah, Detective Logan is intimidating. I felt the same way. I felt like she wasn't buying the idea that I was a good guy. Maybe the tattoos, shaved head and long goatee had some influence.
                                Yea, she was that way with me too. But you got to take into account that she doesn't know us and I'm sure she gets fed up having to deal with idiots and scumbags all day long so she's probably not the most welcoming initially. She did sound nice when she called to notify me that I cleared the background check though.

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