San Bernardino

[blindman]

I understand, I debated with myself a bit before deciding. I figure since it's a private group, at least posts wont show up if someone Googles for them, and at least at the sacrifice of complete anonymity, I am helping a whole lot of people get their applications going. We got over 70 members yesterday, a couple from here

Maybe another way for everybody to stay "anonymous" is to pm you info and you can repost. That way we don't have to out ourselves to everybody

[Cokebottle]

Wow.

Got home a bit ago from the NRA Defensive Handgun course at AVGC (the 1-day class, not the 3-day).
Best $125 I have EVER spent.

Not that I would ever wish that these qualifications should be applied to CCW in general, but I do believe that everyone should be required to at least take this class, whether they pass it or not, some time before their first renewal.

I figured it would be, well, defensive handgun. Of course, it never "clicked" that with California not being an open-carry state, 100% of the class was working from concealment.

AWESOME experience that you need either BLM or a private range to practice.
Seems that many of the qualifications match what some of the more strict counties are reported to be requiring, and those counties may indeed be working with this course since it is a nationally recognized standard.

My thumb isn't bothering me (loaded up close to 300 rounds), but the ball of my support hand is killing me from slamming mags.
Took me 2 rounds to pass... first round I scootched in with a 79%. Managed to pull a 91% on the re-try.

[sparkx]

Wow.

Took me 2 rounds to pass... first round I scootched in with a 79%. Managed to pull a 91% on the re-try.

Can you elaborate on distance and target?

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[Cokebottle]

Can you elaborate on distance and target?

3, 5, 7, and 10 yards. Multiple scenarios and failure drills for practice.
For final qualification it is basic "clean" shooting with draw from concealment, then the 2nd round incorporates magazine changes and a failure drill. Total of 34 rounds for qualification, I got well into my 3rd box of ammo but did not need to open the 4th... probably fired around 250 or so.

The actual qualification requirements are listed here:

http://www.dr-security.com/qualification/defensive_qual.htm

That page is a bit old, the current target is a standard
The target is actually the standard IDPA cardboard target.
The "acceptable" target zone is 12"x24", but we were shooting at a 3x5 card.
At 10 yards that 3x5 card is about the same size as your front sight.

http://speedwelltargets.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=26&products_id=916

[sparkx]

3, 5, 7, and 10 yards. Multiple scenarios and failure drills for practice.

At 10 yards that 3x5 card is about the same size as your front sight.

You used the shield? 10 yards, at a 3x5, 91% accuracy, with a 3" barrel? Pretty nice!

[Cokebottle]

You used the shield? 10 yards, at a 3x5, 91% accuracy, with a 3" barrel? Pretty nice!

LOL... no, out of 34 shots the 91% accuracy was inside the "C" ring on the above target, BUT I only had 4 shots in the C... 2 landed in the D, 28 in the A (but deducted one shot because I fired after the timer expired)

We practiced with the 3x5 card. I think I pegged maybe two shots out of 20 through it from 10 yards.

But the Shield is no slouch. It is a comfortable, good shooting gun.
The Kahr P380 is a straight shooter, but I'm not sure I could have worked the proper sight picture for that kind of accuracy at-speed from 10 yards... aside from the fact that it's not completely broken in and not reliable enough for carry.

[sparkx]

LOL... no, out of 34 shots the 91% accuracy was inside the "C" ring on the above target, BUT I only had 4 shots in the C... 2 landed in the D, 28 in the A (but deducted one shot because I fired after the timer expired)

We practiced with the 3x5 card. I think I pegged maybe two shots out of 20 through it from 10 yards.

But the Shield is no slouch. It is a comfortable, good shooting gun.
The Kahr P380 is a straight shooter, but I'm not sure I could have worked the proper sight picture for that kind of accuracy at-speed from 10 yards... aside from the fact that it's not completely broken in and not reliable enough for carry.

Maybe someday soon ill invest in some type of training course.

I just got in a box of 500 rnds from freedom munitions. Im going to take my shield to the range tomorrow and test them out. I've never tried shooting with the trigger reset. I think it'll make me more accurate. I can already keep my group within the 10 ring on a B-27 from 15 feet.

Lately I've been hitting the right side of the 10 ring for some reason. I want to get it straightened out before my range qualification on the 2nd.

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[Cokebottle]

Maybe someday soon ill invest in some type of training course.

That class was only $125... absolutely worth it.

I can already keep my group within the 10 ring on a B-27 from 15 feet.

Good enough... qualification is not timed, so as long as you are within reason, you've got plenty of time to knock out the 10 shots.

Lately I've been hitting the right side of the 10 ring for some reason. I want to get it straightened out before my range qualification on the 2nd.

Likely too much trigger finger.
I have the opposite problem and almost always pull to the left.

Unloaded and no ammo in the room:
Grip the gun normally. Slip your trigger finger in all the way to the knuckle. Pull the trigger back. Once it hits bottom, continue to gently squeeze, tightening your grip. Notice how the muzzle pulls to the right?

Now do it again, but with only the very tip of your finger on the trigger.
Notice how as you tighten your grip, the muzzle pulls left?

Somewhere between your knuckle and tip there is a balance for THAT gun.
A Glock, or 1911 may be different. The Shield can be finicky for those of us with large hands because it is a narrow single-stack grip.

At qualification, there will be no drawing from a holster, so you'll be able to take your time in establishing your grip.

Good luck!

[sparkx]

Yea I kind of knew out was too much trigger finger or thumbing. Ill try to correct it tomorrow.

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[Dee_Dub]

im afraid to ask but how far out are interviews going?

[turbobladz]

I wouldnt be surprised if the were jan feb by now

[Dee_Dub]

of 2017? thats not too bad. Might be moving out to San Bernardino County. Not really looking forward to starting over in the process but no other choice. Do they still require you to live in the county for 6 months prior to applying?

[sparkx]

Do they still require you to live in the county for 6 months prior to applying?

I thought it was 1 year.

[Dee_Dub]

****ing great

[navydad2010]

FYI to all S/O called this morning for a
range date June 6th at Devore. This is a
Monday, which I didn't know could happen
Works out good for me as I'm usually
Off Monday and Tuesday.

Applied 11-4-15
Interview 2-4-16
Range date 6-6-16