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  • CH-47
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 90

    Gun Mods

    I'm sure this gets asked often but my search didn't produce any threads so if I'm asking something that's been beat to death just skip over it......

    I know you aren't suppose to do anything to your CCW gun but does that really mean ANYTHING or is there some wiggle room like:
    Plus 2 mag extension on a shield.
    Flared mag well on a glock.
    Cerakoted slide parts.
    Extended mag release or take down lever.

    Not talking about trigger jobs and that sort of thing, more like mods that don't relate to functionality or safety.

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    • Yodaman
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 2748

      Originally posted by CH-47
      I'm sure this gets asked often but my search didn't produce any threads so if I'm asking something that's been beat to death just skip over it......

      I know you aren't suppose to do anything to your CCW gun but does that really mean ANYTHING or is there some wiggle room like:
      Plus 2 mag extension on a shield.
      Flared mag well on a glock.
      Cerakoted slide parts.
      Extended mag release or take down lever.

      Not talking about trigger jobs and that sort of thing, more like mods that don't relate to functionality or safety.

      Your search was not of the CCW website page correct?

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      • 9Cal_OC
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2019
        • 6652

        Originally posted by CH-47
        I'm sure this gets asked often but my search didn't produce any threads so if I'm asking something that's been beat to death just skip over it......

        I know you aren't suppose to do anything to your CCW gun but does that really mean ANYTHING or is there some wiggle room like:
        Plus 2 mag extension on a shield.
        Flared mag well on a glock.
        Cerakoted slide parts.
        Extended mag release or take down lever.

        Not talking about trigger jobs and that sort of thing, more like mods that don't relate to functionality or safety.
        Freedom isn't free...

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        • CH-47
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 90

          Originally posted by Yodaman
          Your search was not of the CCW website page correct?
          I used the search tool with the words "gun mods" and nothing came up.

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          • 9Cal_OC
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2019
            • 6652

            Originally posted by CH-47
            I used the search tool with the words "gun mods" and nothing came up.
            https://www.ocsd.org/about_ocsd/services/ccw

            Scroll down.
            Freedom isn't free...

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            • user01394
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 503

              Recommendations for CCW online training at the moment? Looks like Artemis does online class for $220. 8 hour online then in person shooting for an hour? Anyone reputable doing this cheaper?
              Last edited by user01394; 05-02-2020, 1:36 PM.

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              • 9Cal_OC
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2019
                • 6652

                Try Ben Hansen. $160 same day.

                Online and in-person California CCW classes. We're an approved training provider for the Orange County, San Diego County, and Los Angeles County Sheriff's Departments. Let us help you get your non-resident CA CCW permit. Any out-of-state resident that is not criminally prohibited can now obtain a California license to legally carry a concealed firearm in California!
                Freedom isn't free...

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                • Gavelams
                  Junior Member
                  • Mar 2017
                  • 54

                  Originally posted by CH-47
                  I'm sure this gets asked often but my search didn't produce any threads so if I'm asking something that's been beat to death just skip over it......

                  I know you aren't suppose to do anything to your CCW gun but does that really mean ANYTHING or is there some wiggle room like:
                  Plus 2 mag extension on a shield.
                  Flared mag well on a glock.
                  Cerakoted slide parts.
                  Extended mag release or take down lever.

                  Not talking about trigger jobs and that sort of thing, more like mods that don't relate to functionality or safety.
                  Hopefully this helps. I posted this back in January following an OCSD policy change regarding modifications:

                  Although I have not PERSONALLY confirmed this, this was posted today on the Firearms and Safety Training, Orange County (Fast OC) Facebook page:

                  Update from the OCSD regarding your CCW Permits and the firearms and modifications that can be added:

                  Effective immediately, the OCSD CCW Licensing Unit will be implementing the following changes:

                  - Modifications are allowed for CCW listed handguns so long as the gun and all parts/modifications are legal in the State of California. All previous restrictions on modifications to slides, triggers, cerokote, etc. can be disregarded. See DOJ Guidelines for further info.

                   The responsibility for the legality of firearm and it’s parts/accessories lies solely with the owner/applicant.

                   Any violations or failure to adhere to state laws/regulations will result in immediate suspension and/or revocation of license.

                  - Max capacity restriction of 10 rounds for magazines still applies.

                  - Listed handguns must still be concealable on one’s person or reasonably sized bag/purse.

                  - The gun must be registered in the State of California.

                   Can be registered to the applicant or spouse/domestic partner.

                   Must be DROS (FFL A&D check outs are not acceptable).


                  *Important Note: Please be advised that just because a modification is allowed, does not mean it is recommended. Should they have the unfortunate need to discharge their handgun, they may have to explain in criminal/civil court why the weapon was illegally modified or had inappropriate text, logos, pictures, design, etc.

                  Also:

                  "If a modification(s) is done after the issuance of the license, you must complete the training/inspection as if it were a newly listed weapon. The training certificate will be added to your file."
                  Last edited by Gavelams; 05-02-2020, 2:57 PM.

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                  • Gavelams
                    Junior Member
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 54

                    Originally posted by 9Cal_OC
                    Try Ben Hansen. $160 same day.

                    https://www.californiagunpermit.com/
                    +1 on Ben Hansen. That’s who I used and he was great.

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                    • u04601
                      Junior Member
                      • Mar 2018
                      • 79

                      From the Orange County SD CCW website on 5-2-2020

                      "MAGAZINE CAPACITY:
                      The CCW license does not define magazine capacity, just the firearm model, serial number, and caliber. If the magazine and firearm are legal to possess in the State of California, and the firearm is approved to be listed on the license, a CCW permit holder may carry.


                      California firearms laws/regulations are subject to change. It is the responsibility of the owner/applicant to ensure the firearm and magazine are in compliance with California law at the time of carry.
                      Any violations or failure to adhere to state laws/regulations will result in immediate suspension and/or revocation of license.
                      **OCSD DOES NOT PROVIDE LEGAL ADVICE ON FIREARMS OR RELATED EQUIPMENT** "

                      I read this as, if you legally own a magazine that can hold more than 10 rounds, you may carry it in your CCW weapon.
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                      • CH-47
                        Junior Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 90

                        Thank you.......that's what I was looking for....

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                        • Big Jake
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 12509

                          I'd hate to be the test case on this one. that said, I hope that whomever is the test case will be kind enough to share their story if/when it ever becomes an issue. I'll stick with ten round magazines for now. I carry an extra magazine with me at all times so I have twenty-one rounds on me at all times. That should be enough. If it isn't I have bigger things to worry about!
                          "Life Is Hard. It's Harder When You're Stupid"-John Wayne!

                          "Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder"-Michael Savage!

                          "The Object of Life Is Not To Be On The Side Of The Majority, But To Escape Finding Oneself In The Ranks Of The Insane"-Marcus Aurelius!

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                          • dawgcasa
                            Member
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 491

                            Originally posted by Big Jake
                            I'd hate to be the test case on this one. that said, I hope that whomever is the test case will be kind enough to share their story if/when it ever becomes an issue. I'll stick with ten round magazines for now. I carry an extra magazine with me at all times so I have twenty-one rounds on me at all times. That should be enough. If it isn't I have bigger things to worry about!
                            If it was legal to purchase from a licensed FFL in this state, then its currently still legal to possess ... and to use. I have grandfathered G17 magazines and +2 baseplates, as well as ones legally purchased during ‘freedom week’. CA law says that it is currently still legally possess those, so I’m going to use them. That means my G26 carry sidearm is on my hip with a 10+2 baseplate mag with one in the chamber that is still very concealable ... and my spare mag on my other hip is a G17 mag with a +2 baseplate (if SHTF so bad I have to swap mags, the conceal-ability of a G17 mag in a G26 frame is no longer my chief concern). Plus one in the chamber. So, 12+1+19 = 32 rounds with one only mag swap. You have to carry three mags and do two mag swaps to get to 31. Given I only ever intend to use my side arm if my life or the life of someone in close proximity to me is in immediate, real, and grave danger ... assuming only one mag swap, 32 rounds versus 21 might just be the difference between life or death (particularly if there’s more than one perp) with only a negligible increase of weight carried on my belt. Many people carry two spare mags on the opposite hip ... you’d have 31 rounds, I’d have 51. You would have to carry four spare mags to equal what I can carry with two spares.

                            You might say ... what about places like San Francisco that have their own city ordinances that don’t give a damn about current state laws? I just refuse to go to sh*tholes like San Francisco. Ever.
                            Last edited by dawgcasa; 05-03-2020, 7:26 PM.

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                            • starlight
                              Member
                              • Jul 2019
                              • 455

                              Originally posted by Big Jake
                              I'd hate to be the test case on this one. that said, I hope that whomever is the test case will be kind enough to share their story if/when it ever becomes an issue. I'll stick with ten round magazines for now. I carry an extra magazine with me at all times so I have twenty-one rounds on me at all times. That should be enough. If it isn't I have bigger things to worry about!

                              - you have a 0% chance (virtually) of ever needing that much in a CCW situation

                              - I carry 5 and I think that's about 5x more than what I need ..lolz












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                              • Big Jake
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 12509

                                [QUOTE=starlight;24223523]- you have a 0% chance (virtually) of ever needing that much in a CCW situation

                                - I carry 5 and I think that's about 5x more than what I need ..lolz

                                I agree, however, I like to have an extra mag just in case.
                                "Life Is Hard. It's Harder When You're Stupid"-John Wayne!

                                "Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder"-Michael Savage!

                                "The Object of Life Is Not To Be On The Side Of The Majority, But To Escape Finding Oneself In The Ranks Of The Insane"-Marcus Aurelius!

                                "Dr. Thomas Sowell Is A National Treasure"-Big Jake!

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