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[downdiver2]

Sorry, but cargo shorts are so 1990. Throw them away!


This is from a website:

Unless you are currently a member of a branch of a military, in which you are required both by your superior and necessity to wear a pair of these, you must never put them on. Just because your gender wasn’t given the awesome privilege of carrying around a purse (Which is so much more amazing than it looks — do you realize the amount of stuff you can put in there?! And no one’s allowed to touch it!), it doesn’t mean you can just sidestep the rule and carry around your entire life in a bunch of awkwardly-placed, overfull sacs on your legs. It just looks so incredibly uncomfortable, a pair of leg tubes being weighed down by these plush pockets filled with — what are they filled with? Spare change? Extra wallets? Condoms? (Just kidding, no one in cargo shorts has sex.) And this goes quadruple if they are made out of that swish-swish windbreaker material.

[Doheny]

I'm curious...How much of a concern is accidental printing or display? I've read people are oblivious. And prevention should be a priority, of course. But reaching or bending over seem like the easiest way to accidentally expose a grip or get a shirt hung up.



If sighted by a fellow citizen in a store or restaurant, is it a reportable incident only if contacted by store security or police? IOW, no harm no foul? Just leave? How do you think people interpret OCSD's language:



License holder shall not unnecessarily display or expose the concealed weapon.



Should the license holder display or utilize the concealed weapon for which the license has been issued, the license holder shall notify the Commander of PSB within five days. This notice shall be in writing, and shall include the circumstances resulting in the use of the weapon.



http://ocsd.org/gov/sheriff/about/in.../ccw/terms.asp

Printing is not a crime. It's been covered here a bunch. Unless you're wearing spandex no one is going to notice or care.

Search the forum for "printing" and you'll find more info. This subforum is for OC specific issues.


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[CWM4A1]

By "display" it means you actually remove the cover garment to show the gun to other party. That would be on the brandishing side. To get clear definition of brandishing, see PC 417. If you contact OCSD because you printed, they are probably going to laugh.

You will learn to squat down to pick things up to avoid bending over once you start conceal carry. You'll also learn IWB is a lot better to hide the gun than OWB if you constantly need to reach items that's high on the shelf. Once you have proper carry method and corresponding dress code, move on with your life.

BTW, worst offender's are usually off duty LEO. I've seen one just throw a relatively fit T-shirt over his duty holster (seems like Safariland 6820) and called it good...

[Browneye]

BTW, worst offender's are usually off duty LEO. I've seen one just throw a relatively fit T-shirt over his duty holster (seems like Safariland 6820) and called it good...

This. My son in law isn't far from this. He's very casual about it.

I know permittees should always carry, but I got mine for specific reasons and situations and it goes then. Otherwise I don't carry.

As long as you have made a diligent effort to conceal and someone just happens to notice, no one is gonna bust your balls for it. No one in public is gonna make a stink about a guy they saw that had a gun.

That's way the don't want them in bars. They're likely to think you're some kind of undercover agent or something.

People are so generally oblivious that it's highly unlikely anyone is gonna be checking you out that close. Unless its for other reasons.

[GlockN'Roll]

I'm curious...

How much of a concern is accidental printing or display?

I've read people are oblivious.

And prevention should be a priority, of course.

But reaching or bending over seem like the easiest way to accidentally expose a grip or get a shirt hung up.

If sighted by a fellow citizen in a store or restaurant, is it a reportable incident only if contacted by store security or police? IOW, no harm no foul? Just leave? How do you think people interpret OCSD's language:

License holder shall not unnecessarily display or expose the concealed weapon.

Should the license holder display or utilize the concealed weapon for which the license has been issued, the license holder shall notify the Commander of PSB within five days. This notice shall be in writing, and shall include the circumstances resulting in the use of the weapon.

http://ocsd.org/gov/sheriff/about/in.../ccw/terms.asp

For me, printing is more of an issue of giving up the tactical advantage that is concealed carry.

I have and do open carry where necessary and appropriate, but I prefer the element of surprise whenever possible.

No need to alert perps and liberals unnecessarily...

[Underdog01]

I've been carrying almost daily for almost 3 weeks now, apart from work. But I have to carry my little boy quite often, so I'm frequently tugging on my shirt to make sure it doesn't get pulled up.
But a loose shirt with a pattern, untucked works best

[downdiver2]

December 8, 2014 request interview
January 8, 2017: Initial interview scheduled
June 14, 2014: Interview re-scheduled
April 9, 2014: Interview voluntarily cancelled
May 10, 2016 Interview scheduled
September 21, 2016 Interview completed
September 21, 2016 Live Scan
October 4, 2016, residency check

My 2014 initial request is my misery. I should have followed through.

[Booze]

I am getting close for submitting my renewal. Is there any links for help with writing my good cause letter ? Any help would be appreciated. Feel free to pm me if you don't want to post. Thanks.

[tsayyote]

My pickup date is scheduled for this Wed. Got the email 4 days ago but my wife has not. Is the expiration date of the permit 2 years from the date you pick it up? I want to have the same expiration date as my wife and am going to reschedule my appointment to coincide with hers (when she gets it), but if the date is based on something else, there's no sense in doing that.

[kriller134]

My pickup date is scheduled for this Wed. Got the email 4 days ago but my wife has not. Is the expiration date of the permit 2 years from the date you pick it up? I want to have the same expiration date as my wife and am going to reschedule my appointment to coincide with hers (when she gets it), but if the date is based on something else, there's no sense in doing that.

It's based on pick up date

[tsayyote]

Thanks Kriller!

[ltzgolf]

Update



9/27/16 emailed OCSD CCW requesting livescan status. Told recieved last week and submitted for final approval.

Training with OC Firearms Academy on 10/6. Submitted cert on 10/7. Now a little more waiting for pickup date.


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[tsayyote]

Best of luck!

Wife and I pick up our permits tomorrow!

[ocredraider]

Picked up mine today!

O.C. CCW Timeline:
4/6/16 - Appointment requested
4/6/16 - Appointment set for 8/17/16
4/23/16 - Training completed (OCSES - Dave Anderson)
4/23/16 - Livescan submitted
7/12/16 - Appointment moved up for 8/16/16
8/05/16 - Livescan results received
8/16/16 - Interview
8/19/16 - Residency check
9/01/16 - Conditional approval
9/30/16 - Pickup date set for 10/11/16

[tsayyote]

Was told today by OCSD that livescan is now taking 20 weeks!

Edit: DOUBLE CHECK the info when you pickup your permit thoroughly! When we were double checking our permits when Melissa was issuing them, my wifes said MP instead of Shield, and on mine the CII# was left blank. Unfortunately for me, I noticed my issue when I got home, so hopefully I can get back in today to get a new one.