CA DROS Delay

[squirrelnuts]

THIS SHOP RELEASES IF YOU HAVE A CCW

Stage Stop Gun Shop & Indoor Range
601 Atwater Blvd, Atwater, CA 95301
(209) 358-4867

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THIS SHOP RELEASES IF YOU HAVE A CCW

Stage Stop Gun Shop & Indoor Range
601 Atwater Blvd, Atwater, CA 95301
(209) 358-4867

Discrimination
Maybe even a little bit racist .
And on the right day might even be a little bit. Anti - Philanthropist

[pacrat]

THIS SHOP RELEASES IF YOU HAVE A CCW

Stage Stop Gun Shop & Indoor Range
601 Atwater Blvd, Atwater, CA 95301
(209) 358-4867

Then they DO NOT QUALIFY for being ON the "NOT A TURD LIST"


Ca PC=28220 [4] which created the undetermined status. To force release by the DOJ at 30 day maximum delay. DID NOT bestow ANY discriminatory discretion on FFLs.

It applies to ALL NON PROHIBITED PERSONS. NOT JUST, the favored few who some Bureaucrat with a badge says can CCW.

[SharedShots]

The list. Sort of like a GMC for FFLs except with some clear criteria right? And who is going to make sure that some FFL that is or isn't a turd has their status changed on said list? Would that be everybody who thinks somebody should do it but nobody really does?

For people who disdain being on lists, look, a new idea, create a list. For good measure, unbeknownst to those either getting on the list or not getting added, anons get to decide who and who does not by virtue of a phone call and not hearsay.

And when now designated turd FFL modifies their policy and becomes a non-turd just who is responsible for insuring the reformed turd gets either put onto or taken off the list as appropriate?

And while we're at it, can we start a list of all the clowns who manage to get at the front of a line and not having the proper ID or docs to proceed with their purchase after having spent quite some time looking over a gun or peeking at boxes of ammo trying to figure out if they want, then start arguing about it as if the min wage counter person made the laws? Or may include the clowns who obviously started a DROS, return to pick up and then not have their ID but demand their wife standing next to them can vouche for their identify and besides, doesn't the counter person remember them? It was only 10 days ago WTF?




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The list. Sort of like a GMC for FFLs except with some clear criteria right? And who is going to make sure that some FFL that is or isn't a turd has their status changed on said list? Would that be everybody who thinks somebody should do it but nobody really does?

For people who disdain being on lists, look, a new idea, create a list. For good measure, unbeknownst to those either getting on the list or not getting added, anons get to decide who and who does not by virtue of a phone call and not hearsay.

And when now designated turd FFL modifies their policy and becomes a non-turd just who is responsible for insuring the reformed turd gets either put onto or taken off the list as appropriate?

And while we're at it, can we start a list of all the clowns who manage to get at the front of a line and not having the proper ID or docs to proceed with their purchase after having spent quite some time looking over a gun or peeking at boxes of ammo trying to figure out if they want, then start arguing about it as if the min wage counter person made the laws? Or may include the clowns who obviously started a DROS, return to pick up and then not have their ID but demand their wife standing next to them can vouche for their identify and besides, doesn't the counter person remember them? It was only 10 days ago WTF?




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Always have the necessary paperwork , blood sample , hair follicle , birth certificate and the finger print of the doctor that delivered you, if you happened to be a test tube baby then please bring in the tending physician that was present when you hatched . It's not a lot to ask . Messes it up for those of us that are prepared . As for ammo goes just bring your first born child and the deed to your house and / or a virgin relative and you will be fine

[LMan57]

Well, Day 22 and not one word from my FFL getting close to day 30.

[golfish]

Well, Day 22 and not one word from my FFL getting close to day 30.

From what I have read you really have nothing you can do but wait. I think I'd be a little PO-ed.

Good luck,

[LMan57]

From what I have read you really have nothing you can do but wait. I think I'd be a little PO-ed.

Good luck,

Yes, I'm just waiting and I'm Pissed Off.

[66nick]

Well, Day 22 and not one word from my FFL getting close to day 30.

Right there with you, I'm on day 19.

Does anyone know: Is there any extension to the 30-day limit when you're "delayed/undetermined"?

[Scratch705]

Right there with you, I'm on day 19.

Does anyone know: Is there any extension to the 30-day limit when you're "delayed/undetermined"?

Nope. You will have to pay dros again on day 31

[66nick]

Nope. You will have to pay dros again on day 31

My question was in regards to being approved or undetermined on (hypothetically) day 29-30.

Local FFL advised that if you go from delayed to approved, you have 30 days from that status update to pickup.

FWIW, Peninsula Guns and Tactical in San Bruno does NOT release on Undetermined status.

[LMan57]

So I go down on day 30 if it's undetermined I have the option for a refund less the Dros fees or try it again.

[The Gleam]

Because such a thread is not beneficial to the forum advertiser FFLs who will be included on the list.

A thread that WOULD potentially survive the moderators would be a list of FFL's that DO release on undetermined.
Then people could just go to those FFL's and they could make an assumption that the ones NOT listed on the thread may or may not release on undetermined since those "unknown" FFL's have not been added to the list.

GREAT alternative suggestion.

Nobody could argue with a list of which FFLs release on "undetermined" as a bad thing or of it being inculpatory, and with likely no need to worry about them reversing their position as to cause the list to become outdated to anyone's detriment.

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[pacrat]

[1] ... My question was in regards to being approved or undetermined on (hypothetically) day 29-30.

[2] ... Local FFL advised that if you go from delayed to approved, you have 30 days from that status update to pickup.

FWIW, Peninsula Guns and Tactical in San Bruno does NOT release on Undetermined status.

Nick; That's actually TWO distinctly different issues.

[2] ... First, IF you are approved after 240 Hrs, or prior to 30 day Max for a delay. Or if you dealt with a HONORABLE FFL who releases, as required by law, on UNDETERMINED.

You have 30 days to take delivery from FFL. Or THEY/YOU, have to re-DROS. Because the BG checks required by DROS are only good for 30 days.

[1] ... Both "approved after delay" prior to undetermined. And "undetermined after 30 day max delay". Are BOTH APPROVED for delivery from DOJ.

EXACTLY the SAME as if your 240 Hr wait ends, without DOJ placing a HOLD on your delivery due to a DELAY.

[pacrat]

So I go down on day 30 if it's undetermined I have the option for a refund less the Dros fees or try it again.

If by "try it again", you mean PAY FOR ANOTHER DROS. You are ignoring 2 other options.

One of which is a BIG FINGER in the face of the FFL. And do a chargeback of full amount on CC. If you used a CC.

The other is, AN EVEN BIGGER FINGER IN THE FACE OF THE FFL.

You can "SUE THE BASTARD". For an obvious arbitrary, BREACH OF CONTRACT.

Since it was the FFL who CHOSE to BREAK THE CONTRACT. The FFL has no legal right to with hold ANY OF THE PROCEEDS of the contract they broke.

They will of course try and confuse and obsfucate the root issue here. They will claim that the DROS fee is NON REFUNDABLE. But that is their problem. NOT YOURS. Because they chose to break the contract. Not you.