CA DROS Delay

[JTROKS]

The last pistol I bought was delayed a couple of days. I actually received an emai from the gun store stating DROS delayed please call prior to picking up. Not sure if they were experiencing delays on the firearms they sold hence giving heads up to their customers with pending DROS.

[OP7]

I did a PPT on G19 on 05/14 at one dealer, then another PPT on 05/15 for a Shield. Both have been marked as "delayed". Haven't received a letter yet. I'm on day 14 of my DROS just waiting. Wish there was more info out there on this.

[pacrat]

If more and more FFLs start to chicken out releasing undetermined, DOJ could start delaying everyone.
Instant 100% gun control.

I find FFLs acting as butt puppets for DOJ and exacerbating all the existing infringements to lawful firearms purchases. By denying lawful firearms purchasers their already paid for, and lawful to possess property, DEPLORABLE.

If Pro 2A advocates who get screwed by these unscrupulous FFLs. Would just start NUTTING UP, and quit disgracing themselves by willingly dropping trou and inviting a rectal reaming in order to acquiesce to the FFLs extra legal demands. Things would change.

Far past time to throw down a man card on the counter. And tell the bastards. To;

RELEASE ON UNDETERMINED, OR SEE YOU IN COURT!

[Deelayed]

I am starting to wonder if some of these delays that are releasing on undetermined are to prohibited persons in hopes of
Creating more incidents of firearm related crimes so (in their minds) that there will be less resistance to more unconstitutional laws being slammed down.
But considering the way they approach firearm law making in general ,that senselessness could be the rationale . I don't put any underhanded tactic past those in question.

[Deelayed]

Did the FFL call you or did you just go in and it was cleared? I am in the same boat. On day 7 I got the call that it was "delayed" and now I'm at day 14. It's hard to call the FFL they are always busy but don't want to make the 1.5 hr drive if it isn't cleared

Just be patient and see if the GS will call you . Some don't call and want you to check in .some don't want you to call and will let you know . Either way just plan on 30 + days . If it happens sooner you will be pleasantly surprised .

[The Gleam]

I am starting to wonder if some of these delays that are releasing on undetermined are to prohibited persons in hopes of
Creating more incidents of firearm related crimes so (in their minds) that there will be less resistance to more unconstitutional laws being slammed down.
But considering the way they approach firearm law making in general ,that senselessness could be the rationale . I don't put any underhanded tactic past those in question.

No. Not in the slightest.

ALL of these delays have been on people who are not prohibited. A delay is not a denial, regardless of the fact that a right delayed is a right denied.

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[Deelayed]

No. Not in the slightest.

ALL of these delays have been on people who are not prohibited. A delay is not a denial, regardless of the fact that a right delayed is a right denied.

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I'm just trying to figure out what the angle is . It has to be more than just making people wait . They powers that be seem like they are getting more desperate to cram and jam as much of their self made crisis solutions as they can before whatever they see coming happens. Whatever that is , I don't know . Yet.

[HOGDOG1955]

went in friday and was informed they had gotten a undetermined letter for me from doj. so they refunded purchase price and tax. i have yet to recieve anything myself from doj. just hope now next dros goes thru normal. at least this was just a gen 2 glock 17 that i was getting at what i felt was a real good price.

[The Gleam]

People need to start reporting each and every one of these nonsensical delays and 'undetermineds' whereby they know there is nothing that would make them a prohibited person, directly to the CRPA.

Maybe once the CRPA starts realizing the frequency of it, they'll do something of action about it.

This is currently one of the biggest issues against gun owners and the number of these unexplained delays/undetermined labels are increasing each week, and it's going unchecked.

Though people may be getting their money back from dealers who don't release on undetermined and think no big deal of it, no loss - your civil rights were violated regardless, without explanation.

You also have diminished or reduced the number of new handguns or semi-auto rifles in a year's time that you may purchase, under the 1-per-30 day application to purchase infringement, which just may be the CA DOJ's ultimate goal in the first place - to reduce gun sales by disregard, dismissal, disdain, and delay/undetermined.

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[SharedShots]

People need to start reporting each and every one of these nonsensical delays and 'undetermineds' whereby they know there is nothing that would make them a prohibited person, directly to the CRPA.

Maybe once the CRPA starts realizing the frequency of it, they'll do something of action about it.

This is currently one of the biggest issues against gun owners and the number of these unexplained delays/undetermined labels are increasing each week, and it's going unchecked.

Though people may be getting their money back from dealers who don't release on undetermined and think no big feal of it, no loss - your civil rights were violated regardless, without explanation.

You also have diminished or reduced the number of new handguns or semi-auto rifles in a year's time that you may purvhade, under the 1-per-30 day application to purchase infringement, which just may be the CA DOJ's ultimate goal in the first place - to reduce gun sales by disregard, dismissal, disdain, and delay/undetermined.

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Isn't there something called a Grand Jury that could take up a civil rights violation? I have no idea so it's just a question. Maybe they wouldn't have any standing or jurisdiction etc.

If yes, then perhaps granting immunity to involved persons to testify, after all, isn't that what happens when the shoe is on the other foot and evidence otherwise not obtainable is suddenly forthcoming? One of those legal beagle things.

Just curious.

[iMigraine]

Picked up my pistol from Rifle Gear on Saturday, May 28th, my 10th day. No problems.

[pacrat]

Isn't there something called a Grand Jury that could take up a civil rights violation? I have no idea so it's just a question. Maybe they wouldn't have any standing or jurisdiction etc.

If yes, then perhaps granting immunity to involved persons to testify, after all, isn't that what happens when the shoe is on the other foot and evidence otherwise not obtainable is suddenly forthcoming? One of those legal beagle things.

Just curious.

https://www.pooleshaffery.com/news/2...en%20the%20two.

Both a grand jury indictment and a preliminary hearing are initiated by the District Attorney, who presents the prosecutor's evidence to determine whether there is probable cause to bring criminal charges against the subject. The procedure for obtaining such determines varies dramatically between the two.

Good Luck finding a Ca DA who will convene a GJ in order to indict the Ca AG, who is the head of DOJ.

[lonewolf50]

DROS delayed

Has anyone else experienced delayed and undetermined DROS, when you’ve already had multiple firearm purchases? I’ve been purchasing firearms since 2008, and I work federal under the DOD; I had two DROS submitted at the same time, one for a pawnshop return, and the other a new gun purchase, they both came back delayed today on the 10th day. I have never experienced this. The worst part , after waiting 6 months for a CCW interview with the Los Angeles County Sheriffs dept, I finally had an interview set for tomorrow and I had to postponed it, because my new firearm purchase and pawn return which I was intending to list on My CCW, are delayed. Any thoughts on my current situation?

[The Gleam]

Just search 'All Threads' for the words "undetermined" or "delay".

Hope your hard-drive doesn't melt in the process.

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[lonewolf50]

Just search 'All Threads' for the words "undetermined" or "delay".

Hope your hard-drive doesn't melt in the process.

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Lol,, that bad huh!!