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  • God Bless America
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2014
    • 5165

    Should be second-degree murder.

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    • Win231
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2015
      • 2099

      Originally posted by bigmike82
      "I'd have fired more than once." And if I saw that video, and was on your jury, you'd be going away for voluntary manslaughter.
      Wouldn't matter. It would take all 12 to be as wrong as you are.

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      • ja308
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2009
        • 12660

        Originally posted by God Bless America
        WTF are you talking about? Where does it say McGlockton ever went to prison?

        Prison-hardened? Good grief.
        A deadly dispute over a parking spot in Clearwater has grabbed national headlines and sparked backlash about the "Stand Your Ground" law in the Sunshine State.

        McGlockton’s criminal record includes drug charges, petit theft, and an aggravated battery arrest that all happened before 2011.

        Now we must assume Mr McGlocton did time for aggravated battery. If not thats obviously a big problem that there has not been consequences for thug behavior.
        here is what aggravated assault means:
        A person is guilty of aggravated assault if he or she attempts to cause serious bodily injury to another or causes such injury purposely, knowingly, or recklessly under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to the value of human life; or attempts to cause or purposely or knowingly causes bodily injury to ...
        Aggravated Assault legal definition of Aggravated Assault


        Sorry friends I mispoke ! It was Aggravated Battery no Aggravated assault.
        Here is aggravated battery;

        Image result for what is aggravated battery
        Definition of Aggravated Battery. ... Under the law, Aggravated Battery occurs where a defendant intentionally touches or strikes another person and, in doing so: Intentionally or knowingly caused great bodily harm, permanent disability, or permanent disfigurement to the alleged victim; or. Used a deadly weapon; or.
        Aggravated Battery- Florida | Definition, Penalties, Defenses
        Aggravated Battery is striking a person in order to cause great bodily harm, or with a deadly weapon. Penalties include up to 5 years prison.


        In Florida, Aggravated Battery is the intentional touching of another person with the intent to inflict great bodily harm or to use a deadly weapon. Penalties for the offense include mandatory prison, with a maximum penalty of up to 15 years or more, depending on the application of Florida’s 10-20-Life law.
        Last edited by ja308; 07-30-2018, 10:29 AM.

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        • SVT-40
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2008
          • 12895

          Originally posted by Win231
          The "hothead" is the one who puts his hands on someone first. When they do, they sometimes get what they deserve (as in this case). The law is not on your side & it's the law that counts...not opinions.
          I'm 20 years older than Dreijka. I wouldn't be stupid enough to fight with a younger man, physically. I do mind my own business. I think it's foolish to argue with anyone over illegal parking. But being foolish is not a crime; assaulting someone is. I'd have fired more than once.
          Would you support a LEO who shot a suspect under the same circumstance?

          I highly doubt it.
          Poke'm with a stick!


          Originally posted by fiddletown
          What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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          • God Bless America
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2014
            • 5165

            Originally posted by ja308
            .
            ... an aggravated battery arrest ....

            Now we must assume Mr McGlocton did time for aggravated battery. If not thats obviously a big problem that there has not been consequences for thug behavior.
            An ARREST. Nothing about convicted. It would be a bigger problem if he had done time without being convicted. Or is that OK with you if it happens to THUGS?

            You have turned an arrest into a VIOLENT PRISON-HARDENED THUG WHO DONE HARD TIME.

            In doing so, you are making things up. Why?
            Last edited by God Bless America; 07-30-2018, 10:44 AM.

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            • ja308
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2009
              • 12660

              Originally posted by God Bless America
              An ARREST. Nothing about convicted. It would be a bigger problem if he had done time without being convicted. Or is that OK with you if it happens to THUGS?

              You have turned an arrest into a VIOLENT PRISON-HARDENED THUG WHO DONE HARD TIME.

              In doing so, you are making things up. Why?
              Im sorry my friend you have not yet learned the big democrat media who is pushing this narrative has an agenda! That agenda is to eliminate legal civilian gun ownership by means of creating racial animosity. Thats why they lied about Trayvon Martin, Mike Brown and too many other fake storys to outline here!

              He was arrested for aggravated battery. Something the big media never told you about and if you do a search you will find it nearly impossible to find the one link showing his background.

              Don't you think it should be a press responsibility to mention the charges of aggravated battery ? From there they could look into the case and determine if he was set up or whatever.

              Just saying if you trust the sources you appear to trust and buy their narratives. American gun rights will be history if they can hoodwink enough unsuspecting people as they have done to you and others who think a thug can violently shove an unsuspecting person because he broke some hood type protocol.
              Last edited by ja308; 07-30-2018, 11:03 AM.

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              • God Bless America
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2014
                • 5165

                Originally posted by ja308
                Im sorry my friend you have not yet learned the big democrat media who is pushing this narrative has an agenda! That agenda is to eliminate legal civilian gun ownership by means of creating racial animosity. Thats why they lied about Trayvon Martin, Mike Brown and too many other fake storys to outline here!

                He was arrested for aggravated battery. Something the big media never told you about and if you do a search you will find it nearly impossible to find the one link showing his background.

                Don't you think it should be a press responsibility to mention the charges of aggravated battery ? From there they could look into the case and determine if he was set up or whatever.

                Just saying if you trust the sources you appear to trust and buy their narratives. American gun rights will be history if they can hoodwink enough unsuspecting people as they have done to you and others who think a thug can violently shove an unsuspecting person because he broke some hood type protocol.
                So what you're saying is that he wasn't a PRISON-HARDENED EX-CON PRISON THUG WHO DID HARD TIME?

                You are doing everything you can to justify his getting shot, except to look at the facts.

                You have decided that he was a THUG, facts be damned, because he pushed some nosy hall monitor on his butt.

                You even admitted so.

                But that is not what the law allows.

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                • heidad01
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 4902

                  Oh well. Who wants to spend a few bucks?

                  His public records can be checked on line from several sites that offer such info, including Florida State site.

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                  • ja308
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 12660

                    Originally posted by heidad01
                    Oh well. Who wants to spend a few bucks?

                    His public records can be checked on line from several sites that offer such info, including Florida State site.
                    It really will not matter what his record reveals ! The narrative like Trayvon Martin will come out months from now and the media will have set the stage for another black martyr and like Martin or Brown the media will keep the lies up and the very gullible will defend to the death their media fed narrative!

                    As an example no one in media asked Mike Drejga what in his life made him want to enforce the handicapped parking? maybe it was when he was caring for someone handicapped who was injured as a result of not having a space available ? Fact is democrat fake media is setting the agenda without any regard to both sides.

                    just saying the entire focus is on this criminal thug getting killed! One would think an interview with the person or person who were battered that led to the charges of aggravated battery would be in order!

                    Naw doesn't fit the anti gun agenda.
                    Frankly I understand young people falling for this antigun democrat media garbage as they are new to gun culture. But older people!

                    BTW I still believe he was a prison hardened criminal who did time for aggravated battery and based on this video there is a 90% chance Im correct!
                    Yes if mcglocton was convicted of aggravated battery and did no time it would have been a factor that he thought his behavior was acceptable !

                    Sort of like when the thief Trayvon Martin was caught with burglary tools and women jewelry. His Miami school district claimed he was turning those items in! So when he was kicked out of school and his mothers house and sent to Sanford he felt immune from theft or burglary since he skated charges in Miami .
                    Last edited by ja308; 07-30-2018, 12:16 PM.

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                    • HK9
                      Member
                      • Jun 2018
                      • 158

                      Originally posted by ja308
                      While we shooters lament the death of persons who exhibit bad judgement,there really is no need for persons to become violent over simple disagreements.
                      It should be noted violent behavior against citizens in free states could end badly for the perpetrator!


                      "Inside the store, McGlockton caught wind that someone was disrespecting his girl so he came storming out. He violently shoved Drejka to the ground and stood over him in a menacing way. Drejka pulled out his legally-owned and licensed handgun and fired one shot into McGlockton’s chest.

                      McGlockton grabbed his chest and then went running back into the store. He collapsed and died."

                      I thought the Title of the webpage was intended to be a blatant racist commentary instead of a short explanation of what actually took place. The rest of the write up proves that point, clearly.

                      A) Nobody other than those present knows precisely what took place before the violent push to the ground and the well placed shot to the chest. Since I can't trust the author's "Title" and their clear racial bias, I likewise won't trust their write up about the facts leading up to the push/shot.

                      B) The shooter appears to have had a valid claim of "Disparity of Force." However, this is based solely upon the resultant material facts (seen in the video) subsequent to the shot being fired. A study of "Disparity of Force" doctrine will reveal this. This appears to be a lawful shooting in self-defense, without much doubt. The shooter had been violently pushed to the ground and was totally defensive at that point. The threat of great bodily injury was present, because the shooter was taken off guard by the initial push that put him to the ground in the first instance. So, the shooter could not have possibly known what was coming next, but he now understood that it could cause serious bodily injury or death.

                      "White Dudes" have done the same thing and received the same "Toe Tag" from a Black man who was legally concealing a firearm. Yet, I don't recall anyone posting a blog write up with the Title: "White Dude Gets Toe Tag...".

                      Proof, that America still has problems with idiot morons harboring bad attitudes of all kinds. Black, White, Red, Brown, Pink, Striped, Polka Dot, Chartreuse, etc. Parking in a Handicap space should not result in being shot. Parking in a Handicap space should not result in a stranger approaching a vehicle they knew nothing about, for the sole purpose of verbally tasking someone. And, merely verbalizing frustrations to someone about parking in a Handicap designated space, should not result in violently pushing someone to the ground.

                      All in all, morons across the board on this one - including the extremely low IQ race baiting moron behind the Blog. The sooner the 2A Community dispenses with supporting race bating idiots like the Blogger, the sooner more non-2A people will stop assuming that all 2A supporters are complete trigger happy flaming pathological drones with zero brains and no conscious to boot.
                      Last edited by HK9; 07-30-2018, 12:16 PM.

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                      • God Bless America
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2014
                        • 5165

                        Originally posted by ja308

                        BTW I still believe he was a prison hardened criminal who did time for aggravated battery and based on this video there is a 90% chance Im correct!
                        Don't let the facts get in the way of your imagination.

                        I hope you never have a gun in public.

                        You are just as much of a threat to gun ownership as is the "Democrat Controlled Media" you are so worried about.

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                        • HK9
                          Member
                          • Jun 2018
                          • 158

                          Originally posted by Win231
                          The "hothead" is the one who puts his hands on someone first. When they do, they sometimes get what they deserve (as in this case). The law is not on your side & it's the law that counts...not opinions.
                          I'm 20 years older than Dreijka. I wouldn't be stupid enough to fight with a younger man, physically. I do mind my own business. I think it's foolish to argue with anyone over illegal parking. But being foolish is not a crime; assaulting someone is. I'd have fired more than once.

                          You mention the word foolish. Yet, you just wrote something that demonstrates foolishness. You said you would have fired more than once.

                          Do you know the name Massad Ayoob? If you are a responsible gun owner - then you have a duty to know the law and whether or not your actions are within the confines of the law. You might want to look him up, relax your ego a spell, open your ears and engage your brain on the concept of Disparity of Force.

                          Legal Doctrine, will drive your case and could possibly drive your follow-up shots to a point where you are being prosecuted for some lesser charge under Murder 1. Disparity of Force, based on what I see in the video, would not have justified a single follow-up shop. This is the responsibility that goes along with being a responsible gun owner.

                          Any good (high quality) personal self-defense firearms instructor would tell you that if your assailant no longer presents the threat of great bodily injury and/or death to you or another, the justification for the lawful use of a firearm in "self-defense" is over - unless or until that threat re-emerges.

                          As a personal firearms owner, I have the burden that criminals do not have. I have to be mindful of the things that criminals could care less about. One of those things is the use of lethal force doctrine. If I blow that, I may well place myself behind the 8-ball and behind a prosecutor's desire to both clean and fry my fish for me.

                          Having a gun does not justify the ends. However, it does highly clarify them for me. Being a stupid fool, is just not in the cards for me. There were dummies on both sides of this tragedy. Combined IQ might have exceeded the height of a Marsupial's tail above the ground measured in inches, but not much more than that, surely.
                          Last edited by HK9; 07-30-2018, 12:37 PM.

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                          • ja308
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 12660

                            Originally posted by HK9
                            I thought the Title of the webpage was intended to be a blatant racist commentary instead of a short explanation of what actually took place. The rest of the write up proves that point, clearly.

                            A) Nobody other than those present knows precisely what took place before the violent push to the ground and the well placed shot to the chest. Since I can't trust the author's "Title" and their clear racial bias, I likewise won't trust their write up about the facts leading up to the push/shot.

                            B) The shooter appears to have had a valid claim of "Disparity of Force." However, this is based solely upon the resultant material facts (seen in the video) subsequent to the shot being fired. A study of "Disparity of Force" doctrine will reveal this. This appears to be a lawful shooting in self-defense, without much doubt. The shooter had been violently pushed to the ground and was totally defensive at that point. The threat of great bodily injury was present, because the shooter was taken off guard by the initial push that put him to the ground in the first instance. So, the shooter could not have possibly known what was coming next, but he now understood that it could cause serious bodily injury or death.

                            "White Dudes" have done the same thing and received the same "Toe Tag" from a Black man who was legally concealing a firearm. Yet, I don't recall anyone posting a blog write up with the Title: "White Dude Gets Toe Tag...".

                            Proof, that America still has problems with idiot morons harboring bad attitudes of all kinds. Black, White, Red, Brown, Pink, Striped, Polka Dot, Chartreuse, etc. Parking in a Handicap space should not result in being shot. Parking in a Handicap space should not result in a stranger approaching a vehicle they knew nothing about, for the sole purpose of verbally tasking someone. And, merely verbalizing frustrations to someone about parking in a Handicap designated space, should not result in violently pushing someone to the ground.

                            All in all, morons across the board on this one - including the extremely low IQ race baiting moron behind the Blog. The sooner the 2A Community dispenses with supporting race bating idiots like the Blogger, the sooner more non-2A people will stop assuming that all 2A supporters are complete trigger happy flaming pathological drones with zero brains and no conscious to boot.
                            I don't know about the descriptive title being racist. I believe none us would have a problem with any other ethnicity being substituted for black man gets toe tag. Under similar circumstances.

                            Regarding the rest of the story they put out the actual unaltered video and the police did not charge the shooter. So blog is likely accurate!

                            Now that you brought up accuracy in media. Did you have a problem with George Zimmerman being called a white hispanic? Or with NBC altering the 911 call made by Zimmerman? How about ABC altering the photos of Zimmermans injury's?
                            Or the photos of Trayvon Martin being. a cute 11 year old boy ? Or the BS story about him buying ice t and skittles for his little brother?
                            We got the same FAKE MEDIA narrative with Mike Brown and others too!

                            Its also not so good to call people you have never met or know nothing about morons, although mcgloctons actions sure do fit that description. As for Mike Drjeja we have no idea why he challenged people w/o disabilities for using a spot reserved for handicapped. If you had to care for a person in a wheelchair and the handicapped spot was taken by a healthy person you might feel different.

                            To paraphrase Shakespear. Me thinks the gentleman doth protest too much!
                            Last edited by ja308; 07-30-2018, 2:35 PM.

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                            • TriumphantApe
                              Member
                              • Aug 2016
                              • 101

                              Originally posted by ja308
                              No some of our friends are saying a shove or punch doesn't deserve a death sentence regardless of circumstances.
                              I have to much experience bias to give an objective answer, towards both idiots with guns (like the shooter) and getting roughed up and almost killed by thugs. (like the shootee)

                              I've seen too many guys whose attitudes change the minute they get hold of a gun, and I've seen too many guys like the thug that will never, ever be able to approach a situation in a calm rational manner.

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                              • tumark2
                                Member
                                • Mar 2014
                                • 144

                                Originally posted by kenl
                                Yeah, don't know the full story, but I'm wonder how ligit it is when even the owner told him to stop. If nothing else, he could have some real issues in a wrongful death lawsuit. Fail on all sides.

                                Bottom line, for me at least, is you shouldn't go out looking for a fight when carrying.
                                At first I had issue with the shooter but play it back and you see how violent he was pushed and the younger stronger aggressive primary aggressor was stepping toward his victim on the ground until older weaker victim pulled his gun then he only took one step back still close enough to strike again and then victim fired once. Very much self defense.
                                This will probably go like Zimmerman Martin case become a hate circus eventually be found not guilty you

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