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  • ja308
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2009
    • 12660

    Originally posted by bigmike82
    Your last statement is beyond dumb and ignorant. No one is defending the guy who got shot. What we're saying is that YOU CAN'T SHOOT SOMEONE WHO IS NO LONGER AN ACTIVE THREAT. The criticism is entirely on the actions of the shooter; the victim here is completely, and totally, irrelevant.
    You altered my post !

    I said this dead, dumb unemployed never employed ,wife beating,drug dealing,violent hood rat was in the process of further attacking Mike when he was shot. I never implied the threat was over!

    Now stop altering my posts!

    Personally I would have hoped that Mike would have got off his butt and beat this hood rat senseless, but that would have been excessive force and all you internet tough guys would have 2nd guessed him finishing McGlocton off with a 2nd right hand to the throat!

    whaaaaaaa whaaaaa whaaa he didn't have to kick him !!! whaaaa He didn't have to punch him so hard whaaaaaa whaaa ! Mike Drejka was a trained fighter -- He used that Karate crap on that poor guy defending his woman !
    Yes Sir I honestly think you are what win 231 alluded to earlier!
    Sorry win231,but you said it so perfectly!
    Last edited by ja308; 07-31-2018, 6:01 PM.

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    • Win231
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2015
      • 2099

      This is really hilarious.

      The shooter wasn't arrested or charged. Doesn't that give you Einsteins a hint that he didn't do anything wrong?

      Yeah....we know you tough guys wouldn't have shot the thug...you'da kicked his ***. That's fine. You handle it your way & we'll handle it our way.

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      • ja308
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2009
        • 12660

        Originally posted by Win231
        This is really hilarious.

        The shooter wasn't arrested or charged. Doesn't that give you Einsteins a hint that he didn't do anything wrong?

        Yeah....we know you tough guys wouldn't have shot the thug...you'da kicked his ***. That's fine. You handle it your way & we'll handle it our way.
        Exactly Win except they would not have been Mike D. They would have been the person blindsiding a defenseless unaware person with a violent shove, push or punch !

        Thats why they are so mad about this guy getting drilled, because they project themselves acting like Mcglocton and as you alluded to, they think once the gun comes out the McGlocton type just says OK No hard feelings . But if the gun doesn't come out ,Mike gets beaten to death!

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        • bigmike82
          Bit Pusher
          CGN Contributor
          • Jan 2008
          • 3876

          Originally posted by ja308
          You altered my post !

          I said this dead, dumb unemployed never employed ,wife beating,drug dealing,violent hood rat was in the process of further attacking Mike when he was shot. I never implied the threat was over!

          Now stop altering my posts!

          Personally I would have hoped that Mike would have got off his butt and beat this hood rat senseless, but that would have been excessive force and all you internet tough guys would have 2nd guessed him finishing McGlocton off with a 2nd right hand to the throat!

          whaaaaaaa whaaaaa whaaa he didn't have to kick him !!! whaaaa He didn't have to punch him so hard whaaaaaa whaaa ! Mike Drejka was a trained fighter -- He used that Karate crap on that poor guy defending his woman !
          Yes Sir I honestly think you are what win 231 alluded to earlier!
          Sorry win231,but you said it so perfectly!
          You altered my post !

          Correct. I hosed up my responses; I'll fix that shortly.

          You may want to take a breath and relax. If this is how you handle conflict, you're a danger to yourself and everyone around you.
          -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

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          • bigmike82
            Bit Pusher
            CGN Contributor
            • Jan 2008
            • 3876

            Originally posted by Win231
            This is really hilarious.

            The shooter wasn't arrested or charged. Doesn't that give you Einsteins a hint that he didn't do anything wrong?

            Yeah....we know you tough guys wouldn't have shot the thug...you'da kicked his ***. That's fine. You handle it your way & we'll handle it our way.
            Better hope we're not on the jury when you get tried. Think what you want, you will not get away with a bad shoot like that in CA. Good help you if you think you will.
            -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

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            • ja308
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2009
              • 12660

              Originally posted by bigmike82
              Better hope we're not on the jury when you get tried. Think what you want, you will not get away with a bad shoot like that in CA. Good help you if you think you will.


              Dont worry Mike even though you called me names. I will never be in a place where you or people like you will have the opportunity to sucker punch or blindside me with a shove.

              Besides I do have a CCW from my free state, where people like Mcglocton have got the message that they could end up dead by acting like thugs!

              However in California you would probably be safe to do a McGlocton because even being hospitalized beats losing all assets ! You seem really proud of that too!

              The way you talk with name calling and 2nd guessing a legitimate use of self defense. I seriously doubt you will ever serve on a jury!

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              • steelholder
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 3328

                Originally posted by ja308
                Dont worry Mike even though you called me names. I will never be in a place where you or people like you will have the opportunity to sucker punch or blindside me with a shove.

                Besides I do have a CCW from my free state, where people like Mcglocton have got the message that they could end up dead by acting like thugs!

                However in California you would probably be safe to do a McGlocton
                because even being hospitalized beats losing all assets ! You seem really proud of that too!

                The way you talk with name calling and 2nd guessing a legitimate use of self defense. I seriously doubt you will ever serve on a jury!
                I guess it's not too late for the hard liquor
                WTB 3rd Gen SW also looking for a 22 pistol with 6" bbl or longer

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                • heidad01
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 4902

                  Originally posted by bigmike82
                  Better hope we're not on the jury when you get tried. Think what you want, you will not get away with a bad shoot like that in CA. Good help you if you think you will.
                  Oh, you won't get nothing but misery in California even with a very good to gooder! shoot.

                  Not too long ago, in Marine County, an old doctor and his his wife were followed home by a road raged goon. The dirt bag rams into their garage door after they drive in to take refuge. Goon goes into garage. The doctor shot him. It should have been a case of thanks Doc. But all hell broke loose and they were going to charge the poor old guy.

                  Just recently in Torrance, an armed and certified scum bag of a criminal walks into a jewelry store to rob the place at gun point. The store owner shot the bastard who fell at the doorway but did not die. There was a long fiasco following cause no one wanted to go close to the still living and armed perp. Should have been thank you mr shop owner. Keep your gun. We will haul the manure pile to the morg. But he has not got his gun back yet.

                  And then comes the civil suits. A criminal shot or hurt during commission of a crime can collect in a civil suit. Something is not right with this.

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                  • bigmike82
                    Bit Pusher
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 3876

                    Originally posted by ja308
                    Dont worry Mike even though you called me names. I will never be in a place where you or people like you will have the opportunity to sucker punch or blindside me with a shove.

                    Besides I do have a CCW from my free state, where people like Mcglocton have got the message that they could end up dead by acting like thugs!

                    However in California you would probably be safe to do a McGlocton because even being hospitalized beats losing all assets ! You seem really proud of that too!

                    The way you talk with name calling and 2nd guessing a legitimate use of self defense. I seriously doubt you will ever serve on a jury!
                    To clarify, not once did I call you names. I said your statement was dumb and ignorant. Learn to understand the difference between when someone is responding to what you say versus when they talk about you personally.

                    Wow, project much? People like me? Suddenly people who think you don't get to kill someone who is no longer an active threat are now the same people who'll go out and attack you physically?

                    I don't even need to say anything to point out how utterly balls to the wall insane that sounds.
                    Last edited by bigmike82; 07-31-2018, 9:33 PM.
                    -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

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                    • bigmike82
                      Bit Pusher
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 3876

                      Originally posted by heidad01
                      Oh, you won't get nothing but misery in California even with a very good to gooder! shoot.

                      Not too long ago, in Marine County, an old doctor and his his wife were followed home by a road raged goon. The dirt bag rams into their garage door after they drive in to take refuge. Goon goes into garage. The doctor shot him. It should have been a case of thanks Doc. But all hell broke loose and they were going to charge the poor old guy.

                      Just recently in Torrance, an armed and certified scum bag of a criminal walks into a jewelry store to rob the place at gun point. The store owner shot the bastard who fell at the doorway but did not die. There was a long fiasco following cause no one wanted to go close to the still living and armed perp. Should have been thank you mr shop owner. Keep your gun. We will haul the manure pile to the morg. But he has not got his gun back yet.

                      And then comes the civil suits. A criminal shot or hurt during commission of a crime can collect in a civil suit. Something is not right with this.
                      For sure. Doing the right thing isn't easy in the damn climate here. I sat on a jury once (hear that JA?) with a guy who also shot a robber in his store. Back when he did it, though, it sounds like the case was pretty open and shut and he got his pistol back pretty quickly. The good old days...
                      -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

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                      • IVC
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 17595

                        Originally posted by mansysinatra
                        Race is not causal. Highlighting race doesn't provide anything meaningful here.
                        The race doesn't matter as far as the incident goes, but the race is the basis for the media on the left when it comes to these types of incidents.

                        Look at Zimmerman-Martin. They even made Zimmerman white (he is as white as Obama), and every report was pretty much about race. Even the Wikipedia entry for Martin starts with "[he] was a 17 year old African American."

                        How many entries start with "[so and so] was a white man."?
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                        • IVC
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 17595

                          Originally posted by HK9
                          I thought the Title of the webpage was intended to be a blatant racist commentary instead of a short explanation of what actually took place. The rest of the write up proves that point, clearly.
                          Whoa Nellie!

                          Original article said "black dude." The title of this thread doesn't even mention race. If you equate "thug" with "black," that makes *you* a racist. On these forums, people use word "thug" to describe any stupid violent behavior. It's used all the time for white people. Just look for threads on burglaries and people getting killed.

                          Do you think that "black dude" is racist? That it should be just "a dude?" If so, you might want to start with correcting all the mainstream media and all the Democrats who emphasize the race in these types of cases in order to propagate the victimhood stereotype.

                          The attacker was black and the victim was white. If it was reversed, we'd be cheering a black dude who stopped a white thug. The race shouldn't matter, but tell that to the protesters who show up exclusively along the race-based lines. Not reporting on the race would be a material omission in this case as it is indeed causal to the coverage and reaction of the shooting, even if it's irrelevant for legality of the incident.
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                          • Win231
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2015
                            • 2099

                            Originally posted by bigmike82
                            Better hope we're not on the jury when you get tried. Think what you want, you will not get away with a bad shoot like that in CA. Good help you if you think you will.
                            It's not likely because I don't confront anyone over anything. Not worth it.
                            But, if someone commits (or tries to commit) a violent assault on me or my loved one, everything changes. I couldn't care less what a jury thinks. I'll still be in better shape than this thug.

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                            • ja308
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 12660

                              Originally posted by bigmike82
                              To clarify, not once did I call you names. I said your statement was dumb and ignorant. Learn to understand the difference between when someone is responding to what you say versus when they talk about you personally.

                              Wow, project much? People like me? Suddenly people who think you don't get to kill someone who is no longer an active threat are now the same people who'll go out and attack you physically?

                              I don't even need to say anything to point out how utterly balls to the wall insane that sounds.
                              Everything you have posted seems to indicate the violent surprise shove to the ground was really not such a big deal. You are the one who seems to be projecting that after you had committed such an act you would have stopped and walked away.

                              BTW for you ignorant racists who believe black people should be judged different than whites or other ethnic groups. I feel sorry for you!

                              Not one of you would have taken the position if it were an older weaker black man who defended himself after get shoved to the ground by a larger younger white man for telling a white woman to not park in the handicapped spot.

                              That friends is the worst type type of racism and the gun culture abhors it !

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                              • theLBC
                                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Oct 2017
                                • 6937

                                i still don't think this is ultimately good for our rights.

                                the threat, imho, did not rise to the level of deadly force.

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