Need help explaining guns to girlfriend

[EspoMan]

You know her and/or people like her are the ones voting for the morons in control of our state and federal government right? The very people who have and are continuing to strip our 2A rights right ??

[Divernhunter]

Never be forced to choose or give up something legal for her. It will come to that if you stay. My first wife was ok with my firearms but later when some of the crowd she was then with changed her mind she told me I had to choose between her or my hunting. Thirty min later she was packed, out the door and the locks changed.

NO piece of tail is worth it or giving up your manhood for. Pure and simple.

[CK_32]

My girlfriend has a general dislike of firearms. When I revealed to her that I regularly carry one concealed, even when I go out with her, she was severely pissed off -- possibly to the point of breaking up with me. I need an article of some sort to cleanly, quickly, and non-judgmentally explain why she's wrong and should support my decision to carry a weapon. I could write one myself, but I feel it's in my best interests to show her something from someone else.

In no particular order, these are some of her objections to my going about armed:

1. What gives you the right to decide who dies?
   
2. Can you really handle potentially taking someone's life?
   
3. Do we really have that much crime that you need to carry a weapon? I'm fine without one.
   
4. I'm afraid of a gun accidentally going off.
   
5. Don't you know that a criminal will just take it away?
   
6. You're more likely to hurt yourself or me with that thing.
   
7. I think only the police and military should have guns.
   
8. Do you really go around criminals who'd want to hurt you?
   
9. Don't ever carry one when you go out with me.
   

I don't know how she feels about long guns or ones with scary black features. She didn't say she was afraid of me shooting her, but I got that distinct vibe. She did volunteer that she likes quarterstaves, bos, and other cudgels. She liked my blackthorn cane I brought to one date because I hurt my ankle earlier and the restaurant was in a questionable area. I did threaten to use it against a charging dog that broke off its attack.

If you have peanut-gallery suggestions like "dump her" and the like, don't bother responding. I need some simple hard facts and figures easily proven and easily digestible.

I'm especially puzzled at how to proceed because during a double date with her, my brother and his wife, she was quite positively involved in the conversation on when and where my brother and I should go target shooting.

Oh and to the questions in OP, I know it's already days late and over. But I would respond.

1. I don't have the right, but I have the right to judge if I live or die.
2. Honestly, probably not, I hope that day never comes. But I would rather be alive and have regret. Than content and dead.
3. That is your choice, and this is mine. Also explain human nature. Crime has nothing to do with it. Take her to south LA or any ghetto for that matter for a night, she'll change her tune quick.
4. Explain the rules of safety. Unload and tripple check the gun is unloaded and tell her make it go off... Before she does grab it and say exactly it won't. It's an inanimate object.
5. No, how do you?
6. Ignorance. Ignore.
7. More ignorance, take that path if you dare.
8. Your around them every day. You just haven't been attacked. The day it happens you will wish I was there to help you. (Then show her the video of the female who's parents were shot in front of her at the diner)
9. Honestly I would find a new gf, but that's me. It's not about the CCW restriction. But the mindset and ignorance to control your actions. No thanks.

[patriot_man]

OP's agreed to give up his guns and Calguns account for his girlfriend.

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[Garv]

OP's agreed to give up his guns and Calguns account for his girlfriend.

PM sent.
I have cash on hand!

[Napalm Bulldog]

I think the first thing you need to do is not try to prove her wrong. She is entitled to her opinion no matter how flawed it maybe. What I would do is try to make her comfortable as to the fact you carry because you care. Explain how much responsibility comes with a CCW and how the last thing you want to do is hurt someone. That you have to adhere to a strict code of discipline on how and when to use the firearm. Also tell her not everyone can get a CCW and you had to prove you could operate and handle a firearm safely.

As for her telling you not to carry around her, Well I think that's on you. No offense but you know your relationship better than anyone. I personally would say to her, " I know you don't like me carrying while I'm with you but if at some point a day arises that I need it and I can't defend you or keep you from being hurt. I'd rather carry and you be mad , than not and you be hurt or a victim.

[dwalker]

My wife used to kind of give me a lot of crap about carrying a gun around all the time. I think she thought is was a bit amusing that I would carry a gun, sort of like I was being a tough guy.

Then the Aurora shooting happened, in the theater we always go to and I had almost stopped to see that movie that night on my way back down from Evergreen.

Now she has no issues with me carrying a gun and has even asked about possibly carrying one herself in the future, sine she works late etc.

[EspoMan]

I even carry mine to church. My girl likes the fact that I'm armed.

[Subotai]

[*]What gives you the right to decide who dies?

It's never about killing, it's always about stopping an attack. Death can occur but doesn't always.
[*]Can you really handle potentially taking someone's life?

I don't know, it hasn't happened yet. If I do it only if I have to, I have morechance to deal with it appropriately.
[*]Do we really have that much crime that you need to carry a weapon? I'm fine without one.

You may never become a burglary victim. Yet, you lock your door.
[*]I'm afraid of a gun accidentally going off.

With proper training, it won't happen.
[*]Don't you know that a criminal will just take it away?

With proper training, it won't happen.
[*]You're more likely to hurt yourself or me with that thing.

Media lies.
[*]I think only the police and military should have guns.

So did the Jews.
[*]Do you really go around criminals who'd want to hurt you?

Oh God.
[*]Don't ever carry one when you go out with me.

Buh bye.

[bruce381]

1 give up man card
2 give up girlfriend unless she has huge ah lungs
3 take her to the range ans how her

[gunguy101]

http://www.mediaite.com/online/former-cnn-anchor-tells-gun-control-activists-to-shut-the-fck-up/

[e90bmw]

Tag for pics of possibly super hot gf whos worth giving up guns over.

No such woman exists.
I had a set of snarky crass responses that included "suck starting a harley", but I'll refrain..... No I won't. I did it. I'm crass.

Anyway, I have my man card.. I drive the car I like, buy the guns I like AND ride a motorcycle.
I've been married for 20 years this year. It helps that she likes motorcycles, like to drive fast cars and understands that bad guys don't care who you are or where you live.

Sounds like the OP is fundamentally incompatible with the woman.
This is why marriage counseling before marriage is a good idea.

[noozeyeguy]

The OP needs to closely examine the totality of his relationship with the GF, and then determine if she's worth giving up his guns for. That's the end game here.

Jay-el's approach has the highest potential for success, but it is dependent wholly on the GF being open to discussion in the first place. If her biases are strong enough, no amount of compromise will ever be sufficient. Each concession will simply become the new baseline for negotiation.

Jeez, THAT sounds familiar. :sigh:

[kaligaran]

This has nothing to do with a 'man card' and everything to do with having depth in a relationship where you know your partner's values/thoughts/beliefs and if those views differ from your own, respecting your partner and those views.

The OP's gf seems to lack that respect.
However, I even question how honest the OP is being with her (and himself) b/c one would hope that after 2 years they would have the depth in a relationship to have at least discussed their views and apparently they haven't.

[phdo]

Love is about acceptance. You have to accept the other person for who they are and vice versa. You should not try to change the other person or push your ideals on them. If she doesn't accept you, then you have your answer. You have to realize a bad investment and simply cut your losses.