Need help explaining guns to girlfriend

[Wordupmybrotha]

Whoops. I've been dating her since Feb 2014, not 2013.

Frotz, have you and your GF signed up for the class yet?

[Oxnard_Montalvo]

Maybe you should use a different way to persuade her, explain to her that guns to guys are like shoes to girls, they want as many as they can possibly afford, in all shapes and sizes, with 'everyday' guns, 'big name' guns (like Jimmy Choo's, Ms Ox says) and everything in between...

(That would make the guy in L.A. who died with 1200-ish guns the firearm world's Imelda Marcos)

[71MUSTY]

I learned this young and remind myself of it often:

A Woman's mind changed against her will is a woman of the same mind still.

[watevers1]

i guess i can pull a knife on you guys on your next date, and see what she says then.

[e90bmw]

+1. Consider too that relationships are often about compromise. But you really have to be careful with that. Compromising on things like your core beliefs is a big deal. And what you may be ok with initially, often builds to resentment down the road. Not everything should be compromised on. And core beliefs is usually one of them.

I firmly agree.
Been happily married for 20 years.

[Frotz]

Frotz, have you and your GF signed up for the class yet?

I'm not going to ask her what she decided until our next date. Face-to-face will be better. I don't want to be in the class with her to avoid any pressure. I'll be on the premises though, fiddling on my laptop or in the range. I can't sign up anyhow because the place hasn't announced its August schedule yet.

[Wordupmybrotha]

OP, I have a feeling she's going to be noncommittal, without flat-out saying no, to avoid confrontation. Even pro-gun people don't want to be bothered with going to a class. I, for one, have never attended a class.

Here's a preemptive answer to your next possible question: who should pay for the class, you or your GF?

I say, you.

[Frotz]

She did agree to take a class last time this subject came up. Of course, I will pay for the class.

[TeddyBallgame]

30 some odd years ago, i was dating a gal who wasn't very impressed with guns...this was during a time that i always carried my Colt King Cobra .357 with my shoulder rig whenever i went out...probably not the ideal carry gun, but, meh, that's how i rolled back then...she never made a huge issue out of it but i would get comments like "why do you always have to have that thing", stuff like that

finally one evening, while eating at a restaurant in Hollywood the SHTF...some random guy comes into the place creating a stir, and when the management asked him to leave he got pretty volatile...screaming at the owner, people paying at the register, pointing his fingers at any and everyone, cursing up a storm

there he was threatening to eff people up, creating quite a commotion...so, i turn my chair slightly so i can keep a better eye on the guy, no clue what he might try...girl im with is just sitting there with that deer in the headlights look, mouth halfway open

guys still screaming, threatening harm to people, i just unzip my jacket about 4 inches and have my hand resting on the butt of my Cobra...just sat there, never said a word, just kept watching the guy...after what seems like 5 minutes, the guy finally just left...this was pretty much before cell phones and sh**, so i doubt even if anyone called LE

so, after he left, things calmed down, i turn my chair back to our table, looked at her, smiled and said "now you see why?"

on the way home i explained to her i can't rely on anyone else to protect me, or, who i might be with...that guy could've easily been armed with a knife, gun, who knows...what if he pulled a knife and started attacking people?

i noticed after that, she never again asked me about "why......"

[mikenewgun87]

Dump her plenty of fish in the sea, much less guns...in the sea...haha

[mezcan]

Maybe you should tell her that one day you would like to decide on who lives........


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[protohyp]

Save yourself the trouble. My birthday a few days ago and this is what my GF gave me. Plenty of fish in the sea and plenty that LOVE guns



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[Mutenri]

Nobody can answer this better than you can, OP, because you know this person better than any of us. I could give you rhetorics and statistics to shut up a whole auditorium of baying suburban trophy wives, but it won't help with your relationship. Only you understand why and how she came to the conclusion of hoplophobia, and if not, only you can figure it out. Only you know how much she abides by reason and logic, or instead by emotion and trust. Be calm, be understanding, stay on emotional high ground; remember that being right doesn't help here; convincing her that she should change does.

[sl0re10]

My girlfriend has a general dislike of firearms. When I revealed to her that I regularly carry one concealed, even when I go out with her, she was severely pissed off -- possibly to the point of breaking up with me. I need an article of some sort to cleanly, quickly, and non-judgmentally explain why she's wrong and should support my decision to carry a weapon. I could write one myself, but I feel it's in my best interests to show her something from someone else.

In no particular order, these are some of her objections to my going about armed:

1. What gives you the right to decide who dies?
   
2. Can you really handle potentially taking someone's life?
   
3. Do we really have that much crime that you need to carry a weapon? I'm fine without one.
   
4. I'm afraid of a gun accidentally going off.
   
5. Don't you know that a criminal will just take it away?
   
6. You're more likely to hurt yourself or me with that thing.
   
7. I think only the police and military should have guns.
   
8. Do you really go around criminals who'd want to hurt you?
   
9. Don't ever carry one when you go out with me.
   

I don't know how she feels about long guns or ones with scary black features. She didn't say she was afraid of me shooting her, but I got that distinct vibe. She did volunteer that she likes quarterstaves, bos, and other cudgels. She liked my blackthorn cane I brought to one date because I hurt my ankle earlier and the restaurant was in a questionable area. I did threaten to use it against a charging dog that broke off its attack.

If you have peanut-gallery suggestions like "dump her" and the like, don't bother responding. I need some simple hard facts and figures easily proven and easily digestible.

I'm especially puzzled at how to proceed because during a double date with her, my brother and his wife, she was quite positively involved in the conversation on when and where my brother and I should go target shooting.

run. you don't want to end up marrying a prog. You'll eventually lose half your stuff.

[sl0re10]

Why does she feel so strongly about guns?

It's the PC group think thing all people of good will do?

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Like I said; run!