Vang Comp wait times

[JagerDog]

?. I don?t doubt they can tighten groups but I?m dubious they do that much of a better job than a choke. I?m a 100% sure though it?s a very poorly run company and we should be warning fellow shooters that they should be prepared to wait possibly over a year, not singing their praises. I don?t have any beef with Vang Comp but come on. They ain?t got their **** together.

Pretty much the camp I'd be in if I was considering it.

Relatively simply and refined process should in no way take a year. If you can't turn it around in 90 days, in the worst of times, you need to either expand capability or refuse work.

[Ari_d_sparki]

Mod is generally chosen for Trap, skeet1 for skeet. #8 birdshot would work for both. Is your Vang putting out a mod pattern at 25 yards? Does that change with buckshot? Just curious.

It seems to pattern somewhere between IC and light mod. Works great at 16 and 18 yard trap. Even with my Beretta o/u at that range I only use IC.

Years ago I did a few sets of doubles trap with it and did ok.

BTW our range switched to steel and I found that with steel shot, my 1300 was happiest with lower speed stuff, generally less than 1300 fps.

I don't practice much with buck but I recently ran a few low recoil with it at a hillside and it seemed to hit the clays just right at 20 or so yards.

[shovelon]

It seems to pattern somewhere between IC and light mod. Works great at 16 and 18 yard trap. Even with my Beretta o/u at that range I only use IC.

Years ago I did a few sets of doubles trap with it and did ok.

BTW our range switched to steel and I found that with steel shot, my 1300 was happiest with lower speed stuff, generally less than 1300 fps.

I don't practice much with buck but I recently ran a few low recoil with it at a hillside and it seemed to hit the clays just right at 20 or so yards.

Ok, I see now. Interesting too as steel patterns differently than lead. I have never shot steel, but Briley told me that vintage guns can still shoot steel as long as choke no tighter than mod.

[deckhandmike]

First of all all respect to Randy as a good source of knowledge and I’m definitely giving him a bit of crap for being a fanboy but I’m still laughing at Vang
Comp as a business. I’d love to shoot one at SLOSA just for kicks. My **** talking is all in fun but seriously how can you pump up a business like this? And yes, I’d put 200$ on anyone that wants to bet Vang could get me my gun back in their estimated time.

[deckhandmike]

I urge Vang Comp to just come clean and say “Hey, we’re badass and get ready to wait a year”. They’d build on their own exclusivity instead of being the loser that can’t deliver on their estimates.

[Ari_d_sparki]

Mike, unless we get rained out, I'll be at SLOSA on Saturday to shoot IDPA and possibly a little at Delta. I'll be in the Miata so I won't have much room for extra stuff. Which gun do you want me to bring, what time do you want to meet and which range?

[Ari_d_sparki]

I urge Vang Comp to just come clean and say ?Hey, we?re badass and get ready to wait a year?. They?d build on their own exclusivity instead of being the loser that can?t deliver on their estimates.

I have offered a few times to let anyone shoot my guns. This dude keeps crapping on the company and won't take me up on my offer even though I'll be in his neighborhood tomorrow.
In my business, when I see clients or potential clients like this, I refund their money, return their unfinished parts and ban them for life. They can find someone else.
If I were Cody, that's what I would do. Technicians like us are too valuable to waste our time on whiners like him.

[Ashift]

I spoke with Cody today, he quoted me a nine month turnaround. I've shot one of their's for years with low recoil buck and slugs, compared to stock it's night and day. I've never run flight control. There's different ways to skin a cat, so it seems a good topic to agree to disagree. Spend your money where you choose. Nine months can be a hard pill to swallow.

[Ari_d_sparki]

The shop is being manned by four, repeat FOUR individuals.
If anyone with machining experience is interested in relocating to Las Vegas, I suggest you call their shop.

Nine months is a long wait. Just keep in mind that when they get orders for several at a time, the big orders get more attention than the one single order custom job.

[xblax619]

I spoke with Cody today, he quoted me a nine month turnaround. I've shot one of their's for years with low recoil buck and slugs, compared to stock it's night and day. I've never run flight control. There's different ways to skin a cat, so it seems a good topic to agree to disagree. Spend your money where you choose. Nine months can be a hard pill to swallow.

nine months to do their full upgrade on your 870/500? or is that just their barrel mod?

[Ashift]

Nine months was for a full upgrade, I didn't ask about barrel work only. Cody said they're actively trying to hire more employees.

[madland]

^^Well said.

There's gotta be somebody else out there doing similar/reliable work.
Is it really worth the wait time to be without your shotgun? Unless you are competing with it..which I would think you probably have multiple shotguns in that case so being without 1 or 2 isn't a big deal..but I wouldn't want to be without one of my HD shotguns for months and months with no real completion date in the near future.
Ask yourself..will my tricked out shotgun make that big of a difference if I have to break it out in a HD situation vs the stock shotgun? Recoil/flight pattern/etc isn't going to matter much in a hallway. And if you don't have your tricked out shotgun in the first place it really won't matter.
I don't shoot clay or hunt with my shotguns..strictly HD. But I know how they work and go bang every time I ask them to.
My .02

Rather than type it all out..I'll just re-post one of my earlier posts.

I doubt anyone here has actually shot a VCS more than a couple of hundred rounds. I have over 10k through one of mine. (Ari-d)

I have about 5000 rounds between 2 guns and that's the reason why I promote them so much. I know exactly what the results are going to be and can articulate it to others.

Look at the "What I did to my Shotguns" Sticky Thread. It should give you some idea, that I have some idea about what I talk about? Maybe?

Randy

I don't have even 1/10th of that thru either of mine. Which is why I wouldn't bother spending the money for work by anyone..let alone want to be without my HD shotguns for any extended amount of time.

I have offered a few times to let anyone shoot my guns. This dude keeps crapping on the company and won't take me up on my offer even though I'll be in his neighborhood tomorrow.
In my business, when I see clients or potential clients like this, I refund their money, return their unfinished parts and ban them for life. They can find someone else.
If I were Cody, that's what I would do. Technicians like us are too valuable to waste our time on whiners like him.

I don't think @deckhandmike has sent them any work..unless I'm mistaken. And I wouldn't need to be banned, I simply wouldn't be a repeat customer.

The shop is being manned by four, repeat FOUR individuals.
If anyone with machining experience is interested in relocating to Las Vegas, I suggest you call their shop.

Nine months is a long wait. Just keep in mind that when they get orders for several at a time, the big orders get more attention than the one single order custom job.

Then STOP taking orders. Like Randy says..KISS. Too much work + not enough staff= Stop taking orders and fulfill the current ones. Catch up. Take more orders. Rinse. Repeat.
This isn't brain surgery.

[W.R.Buchanan]

Then STOP taking orders. Like Randy says..KISS. Too much work + not enough staff= Stop taking orders and fulfill the current ones. Catch up. Take more orders. Rinse. Repeat. This isn't brain surgery.

Uhhh,,, I didn't say that. Please don't quote me if you can't get it right!

If you want to experience the difference a Vang Comp Barrel makes to a shotgun, just send the barrel. That's what I do. They turn them around pretty fast.

Believe me when I say it is night and day difference.

You can quote me on that!

Randy

[Ari_d_sparki]

I have two Winchesters with just barrel work, and an 870 that is their full custom with all of their goodies.
The full custom is amazing and I would wait a year for another if I had to.
I just sent in another Winchester for some custom work and will likely see it next year.
I have an 870 Wingmaster factory top folder that has their barrel work, follower and safety. It is in beautiful condition and is now for sale for $1500 which I believe is a good to fair price. I'll post the ad again soon in the long guns section.

[madland]

Uhhh,,, I didn't say that. Please don't quote me if you can't get it right!

If you want to experience the difference a Vang Comp Barrel makes to a shotgun, just send the barrel. That's what I do. They turn them around pretty fast.

Believe me when I say it is night and day difference.

You can quote me on that!

Randy

I was quoting you from a different thread when you were talking about various ways to set up one's shotgun. I wasn't referring to this VC thread...just you talking about keeping it simple in general. I could be wrong.