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  • Citadelgrad87
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Mar 2007
    • 16928

    Originally posted by Tovarish
    I believe you are misunderstanding my intentions.

    I made no such error. I don't expect everyone to tell him it's junk. I don't know if it's somehow a lemon Glock or not, and I don't care.

    I just find it amusing that people are so quick to blame this guy (who seems an experienced shooter) for limp wristing or using crappy ammo. I believe the guy's concern is quite valid: that his pistol is simply not doing as advertised (see "Perfection.") and it is irritating that he gets an earful for disrespecting his weapon, which MUST be perfect because it's a Glock.

    (BTW I never use reloads on my own pistols and certainly would not when breaking in.)
    Flip side, the thread title is "&/@3$; GlockS", as if his experience in breaking in a weapon using reloads and modified magazines has uncovered a brand wide reliability problem?

    This is a tough room, and there is fanboy rage to be had, but this thread was destined to take an ugly term. Op appears to be trying to hold anyone who thinks it's not likely the pistol responsible for vague statements that it should shoot anything.

    No offense to op, but running reloads as break in ammo, along with modified magazines, then immediately complaining that the pistol isn't working correctly doesn't sound to me like a very experienced shooter.

    His concerns aren't valid at all until he takes steps to confirm it's the weapon. It's more likely the ammo, or the magazines, than it is the weapon.

    Eliminate those, then we likely do have a malfunctioning weapon, no matter what the brand.

    I'd like to see op take those steps and post the results. My understanding is Glocks customer service is good, I am confident they will take care of him. I can tell you if he contacts them now and relates his problem, they are going to immediately ask what kind of ammo and tell him it's the reloads when he tells them. They may or may not ask about magazine, likely so because of the California magazine problems.
    Originally posted by tony270
    It's easy to be a keyboard warrior, you would melt like wax in front of me, you wouldn't be able to move your lips.
    Originally posted by repubconserv
    Print it out and frame it for all I care
    Originally posted by el chivo
    I don't need to think at all..
    Originally posted by pjsig
    You are talking to someone who already won this lame conversation, not a brick a wall. Too bad you don't realize it.
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    • Citadelgrad87
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Mar 2007
      • 16928

      Originally posted by five.five-six
      If a gun is hypersensitive to "limp wristing" or ammo selection, that gun is a long way off from "perfection". My old HiPoint C9 ate everything I put in it regardless of "limp wristing".

      One advantage of a HiPoint over the glock, it's a cheep gun that's actually cheep to buy.
      They aren't hypersensitive to limp wristing. They are light enough that it affects performance if you don't hold a Glock correctly.

      It's not some Glock quirk, you're supposed to hold a pistol firmly. I learned to shoot, properly, before gaston ever made a product. I've never had a sissy wrist malfunction, but it's not because I handle Glocks differently. I shoot all handguns the same, and don't ever have problems with sissy wristing unless I'm trying to help someone else work through the issue.

      There are lots df ways to shoot a weapon incorrectly. Just because one design isn't as forgiving of poor form, that doesn't mean some other brand that isn't sensitive to the same poor form is better.
      Originally posted by tony270
      It's easy to be a keyboard warrior, you would melt like wax in front of me, you wouldn't be able to move your lips.
      Originally posted by repubconserv
      Print it out and frame it for all I care
      Originally posted by el chivo
      I don't need to think at all..
      Originally posted by pjsig
      You are talking to someone who already won this lame conversation, not a brick a wall. Too bad you don't realize it.
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      • Tovarish
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2014
        • 1615

        I will agree with that, and add that I would probably be miffed if I were OP but would likely not start a "f*** Glock" thread until I ruled out possibilities.

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        • SimonBirch
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 1124

          Ummm...doesn't glock say not to fire reloads?...

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          • MCM
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 553

            PM me if you decide to sell that piece of crap.
            Thanks

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            • static2126
              Calguns Addict
              • Mar 2013
              • 5619

              Originally posted by Yugo
              Well you guys are very entertaining, I will try all the suggestions:
              Clean it.
              Factory hot loads.
              Break in period.
              No limp wrist.
              Check all springs.

              I will go to the range later this week and report back.


              I'm not really wanting to sell as I know from most of your posts that this is an easy fix.

              I'm just mad that I did not have to do this for any other gun I have that cost me half the price. I thought the Glocks were the ak's of handguns but now I think they are the ar's of hand guns.
              you clearly have no experience with a quality ar system

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              • static2126
                Calguns Addict
                • Mar 2013
                • 5619

                Originally posted by Tovarish
                I believe you are misunderstanding my intentions.

                I made no such error. I don't expect everyone to tell him it's junk. I don't know if it's somehow a lemon Glock or not, and I don't care.

                I just find it amusing that people are so quick to blame this guy (who seems an experienced shooter) for limp wristing or using crappy ammo. I believe the guy's concern is quite valid: that his pistol is simply not doing as advertised (see "Perfection.") and it is irritating that he gets an earful for disrespecting his weapon, which MUST be perfect because it's a Glock.

                (BTW I never use reloads on my own pistols and certainly would not when breaking in.)
                What makes the op seem like an experienced shooter to you? Post count? Most experienced shooters diagnose their own issues. I had a vp9 that wouldn't worm with reloads the first 3k or so rounds and I diagnosed it.

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                • Dragon
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 960

                  Originally posted by Lead Waster
                  If you were taking a crap one night, and suddenly 3 guys broke into your house and were hammering at your bathroom door, you'd pay $10,000 for a Glock 17L and 10 rounds....

                  Nah ,no need they would never make it to the door . The fumes would be too thick
                  "I will not buy ammo from the private ammo sellers,it only encourages them to keep buying ,and reselling the ammo they bought from WAL-MART at 2-3 times what they bought it for"!

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                  • five.five-six
                    CGN Contributor
                    • May 2006
                    • 34870

                    Originally posted by Omnomagon
                    If your integrity meant that much to you, you would have read the manual beforehand and followed the instructions.
                    If I wanted a cheep gun and bought a glock, and that's a big "if", and I fired reloads of cast bullets through my gun, how is that a lack of integrity?


                    Personally, I wouldn't buy any gun that couldn't fire hand loads.. Hell, even Ravens and Jennings can fire reloads.

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                    • fdesalvo
                      Junior Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 70

                      Originally posted by Dragon
                      Nah ,no need they would never make it to the door . The fumes would be too thick
                      "OH, never mind, man. We will see our way out!"
                      Best,

                      Frank

                      "Ruining good moments since 1975."

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                      • Tovarish
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 1615

                        Originally posted by static2126
                        What makes the op seem like an experienced shooter to you? Post count? Most experienced shooters diagnose their own issues. I had a vp9 that wouldn't worm with reloads the first 3k or so rounds and I diagnosed it.
                        Post count, he mentioned owning other guns, he was at the zombie thing.

                        Hell, I don't know. Maybe he doesn't know anything. Maybe he'll come back and report that his ammo was crap or he was holding it wrong. Then case closed, I guess. I just would kind of expect the advice to be "that's not right. It should run anything. Send it back." Not "you don't know what you're doing and it's the ammo's fault."
                        Last edited by Tovarish; 11-12-2014, 4:27 PM.

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                        • five.five-six
                          CGN Contributor
                          • May 2006
                          • 34870

                          Originally posted by static2126
                          What makes the op seem like an experienced shooter to you?
                          Well, there's this:

                          Originally posted by Yugo
                          I have a XD40 and I have shot thousands of bulletmans reloads with out a hickup!

                          So F&^%K Glock!!!!!!!
                          And the fact that he hates glocks means that his experience with firearms extends past what he has learned by watching movies.

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                          • D0Over
                            Member
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 267

                            Originally posted by static2126
                            you clearly have no experience with a quality ar system
                            Or 1911's...

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                            • five.five-six
                              CGN Contributor
                              • May 2006
                              • 34870

                              Guy makes a lot of sense.

                              Originally posted by dyson

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                              • customiiguy
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 1666

                                $750 for a glock??? ouch

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