Single Shot Exemption Explanation/Database Thread

[kemasa]

If you look at the copy of the DROS that was submitted (the FFL is required to give you a copy when you pick up the firearm), it will have the end date that the firearm can be picked up, which is 30 days, so 1 second after that time listed you can submit another DROS. It is on the upper left of the form.

[ben_r_]

If you look at the copy of the DROS that was submitted (the FFL is required to give you a copy when you pick up the firearm), it will have the end date that the firearm can be picked up, which is 30 days, so 1 second after that time listed you can submit another DROS. It is on the upper left of the form.

Awesome. Good way of looking at it and verifying. Thanks.

[shalang]

Transfer DROS at RifleGear yesterday for $35. Theyre in SoCal Fountain Valley.

[kmaultsby]

I am live in Pomona CA and would like know is it possible to purchase XDM 40 5.25 with single shot, and then convert back so I can use it in USPSA limited.
If so, any dealers near by I would love to here from you if you can help me out or from anyone that have suggestions.

[Cyc Wid It]

Sure it's possible... that's the whole point of single shot exemptions.

[Jedi54]

I am live in Pomona CA and would like know is it possible to purchase XDM 40 5.25 with single shot, and then convert back so I can use it in USPSA limited.
If so, any dealers near by I would love to here from you if you can help me out or from anyone that have suggestions.

absolutely.
take a look at the 1st post in this thread for the shops in your area and call to see if they can SSE an XDM. Some might have the parts necessary for it and once you pick up the gun, they'll return it to OE configuration so you can then do with it as you please.

[cswnow]

My LGS just called me and said that the M&P Shield 9mm, I put a deposit on probably 6 months ago, is now in. My question is do I have to have them do a SSE on the gun? I completely forgot putting a request for one so I wasn't prepared. Any help would be appreciated.

[advocatusdiaboli]

My LGS just called me and said that the M&P Shield 9mm, I put a deposit on probably 6 months ago, is now in. My question is do I have to have them do a SSE on the gun? I completely forgot putting a request for one so I wasn't prepared. Any help would be appreciated.

Did you oder a "real" Shield or the a "CA-compliant" one? My guess is you are getting a CA-compliant one since it was shipped dirtily to your dealer BEFORE you paid for it.

[sandmanx408]

Does anyone know if a firearm is purchased thru the SSE route do manufacture s honor their warranty on them still?

[advocatusdiaboli]

Does anyone know if a firearm is purchased thru the SSE route do manufacture s honor their warranty on them still?

[kemasa]

Some manufacturers are refusing to honor warranties. I think it make them look bad, plus they don't know how you received the firearm. The conversion to single shot would not affect the firearm, plus you could receive the firearm through an intrafamilial transfer. Some seem to be denying the warranty based on where you live since they (incorrectly) say that you can not legally purchase the firearm when you live in CA.

[advocatusdiaboli]

Some manufacturers are refusing to honor warranties. I think it make them look bad, plus they don't know how you received the firearm. The conversion to single shot would not affect the firearm, plus you could receive the firearm through an intrafamilial transfer. Some seem to be denying the warranty based on where you live since they (incorrectly) say that you can not legally purchase the firearm when you live in CA.

They try that with me, I'll sue them in small claims court and have their CEO served to appear in San Joaquin County. The firearm was legally bought (the SSE is perfectly legal as it stand right now plus as you said there are exemption—none of those are mentioned in their warranty disclaimer) and the warranty better be in place or it's going to cost them.

[kemasa]

Go ahead and try that. You can't force an out of state company to come for a small claims court case. You also can not force the CEO to appear in small claims court.

You can sue in civil court, either by yourself or with an attorney. Guess how much it will cost you? Oh, they might also request and get the lawsuit changed to their state, which will cost you a lot to travel there, as well as having to hire an attorney there.

You might also consider getting an attorney interested in a class action lawsuit, which might get you somewhere, but then again you would have to admit that the firearm was "modified", which could be an issue with the warranty, even if it was put back to the same way.

While you are correct that they should honor the warranty, you are not correct about how to go after them.

[advocatusdiaboli]

Go ahead and try that. You can't force an out of state company to come for a small claims court case. You also can not force the CEO to appear in small claims court.

You can sue in civil court, either by yourself or with an attorney. Guess how much it will cost you? Oh, they might also request and get the lawsuit changed to their state, which will cost you a lot to travel there, as well as having to hire an attorney there.

You might also consider getting an attorney interested in a class action lawsuit, which might get you somewhere, but then again you would have to admit that the firearm was "modified", which could be an issue with the warranty, even if it was put back to the same way.

While you are correct that they should honor the warranty, you are not correct about how to go after them.

Never mind, according to Nolo Press you can sue an out of state business in small claims court if: "the business does regular business in your state by selling products or services". If they sell on-Roster pistols here, then, yes I can sue them. You might say "Great, drive them out why don't you like we need fewer sellers here". Well, if they won't honor their warranty, then good riddance.

[kemasa]

Never mind, according to Nolo Press you can sue an out of state business in small claims court if: "the business does regular business in your state by selling products or services". If they sell on-Roster pistols here, then, yes I can sue them. You might say "Great, drive them out why don't you like we need fewer sellers here". Well, if they won't honor their warranty, then good riddance.

No, they don't. Manufacturers sell firearms to distributors. The distributors sell firearms to dealers. Dealers sell firearms to customers.

While they have firearms on the certified list, that does not mean that they, as a company, does business in CA.