Single Shot Exemption Explanation/Database Thread

[BEE]

If im not mistaken OC Firearms can also SSE CZ's and 1911's as well as block mags to 10rds.

[Johnny_Utah]

Pardon the basic question, but only certain shops do the SSE? Any Orange County suggestions? Looking for Walther PPQ.

As others have indicated, I would recommend OC Firearms. My PPQ M2 is in jail right now (out next Friday). I will warn you that the PPQ's are a bit hard to find right now. I looked at other shops and if those others HAVE then in stock, they are charging quite a price for it.

OC Firearms has the MOST reasonable prices by FAR. Out the door for $640.

[fallout1]

Is there any possibility of damage or wear that results from the conversion process or is it a rather simple affair?

Thank you

[Artema]

Is there any possibility of damage or wear that results from the conversion process or is it a rather simple affair?

Thank you

As far as I know it is not much more than a barrel swap. Would be easy to make a gun not auto-load with the right chamber.

[Brian Nussbaum CO]

I you use a shop that dose lots of SSE your new gun will be fine

We do lots of SSE pistols and have spent a LOT of money making sure we have the best kit we can get / build / buy

When the pistol is back in the stock configuration you would not be able to tell it had been worked on

That being said talk to the shop you will be working with as service is different from shop to shop

[advocatusdiaboli]

As far as I know it is not much more than a barrel swap. Would be easy to make a gun not auto-load with the right chamber.

Correct. This was how the legislators defined a single-shot pistol: by barrel length. So any semi-auto sold with a long enough barrel length is exempt. Of course , the legislators now know they prodded this loop hole and intend to close it with the new bill pending in the legislature.

Pistols are exempt from the Roster if their barrel length is greater than a certain length. After purchase transfer, it is legal for you to swap that barrel any barrel length you want. This loop hole exists because no non-Roster gun is illegal in CA to possess or use—it's just illegal to purchase under most circumstances while there are numerous exemptions and the SSE is a key exemption.

Note that you can buy and off-Roster gun from an LEO, out-of-stater who moved via PPT, anyone who purchased a now off-Roster gun while it used to be on the Roster, inter-familian transfers and the SSE. I am sure I forgot one or two.

The point is that the antis set themselves up with this foolish regime in the first place and The Roster is a farce the courts will eventually strike down because it is inconsistent and not a safety regime but really just a gun ban.

[fallout1]

Cool--thanks for your reply.

I you use a shop that dose lots of SSE your new gun will be fine

We do lots of SSE pistols and have spent a LOT of money making sure we have the best kit we can get / build / buy

When the pistol is back in the stock configuration you would not be able to tell it had been worked on

That being said talk to the shop you will be working with as service is different from shop to shop

[Cyc Wid It]

Sorry all, was out of town for a few days. Changelog: 2 new shops added and I moved the section 4 to post #2 in the thread as the first post is hitting the maximum allowed content (good job everyone).

Thanks for everyone's continued help in keeping this thread up to date.

[ammoparadise]

Sorry all, was out of town for a few days. Changelog: 2 new shops added and I moved the section 4 to post #2 in the thread as the first post is hitting the maximum allowed content (good job everyone).

Thanks for everyone's continued help in keeping this thread up to date.

No sir, thank you!

[XD40Kyle]

I'm looking at doing a sse...my question for if a bill is passed closing the loop hole, would everyone be grandfathered in? I know it's probably hard to say though...

[Brian Nussbaum CO]

XD41Kyle

If you own it before 12/31/2014 it will be grandfathered in. The Bill dose not make pistols you own unlawful to possess

[LBDamned]

I'm looking at doing a sse...my question for if a bill is passed closing the loop hole, would everyone be grandfathered in? I know it's probably hard to say though...

I find it hard to believe they can require everyone to surrender their legally owned guns... and since they are already registered, there isn't much the can do other than make the current process of SSE illegal.

[advocatusdiaboli]

I find it hard to believe they can require everyone to surrender their legally owned guns... and since they are already registered, there isn't much the can do other than make the current process of SSE illegal.

The key thing about The Roster is that is doesn't make an Off-Roster pistol illegal in anyway. It ply makes purchasing it, if you or the seller are not on the list of exemptions, illegal. Once you own it, it's fully legal. I have several pistol no longer on The Roster. they are no illegal for me to have. Which is why this while "safety" ruse of The Roster is ludicrous and a farce.

[LBDamned]

The key thing about The Roster is that is doesn't make an Off-Roster pistol illegal in anyway. It ply makes purchasing it, if you or the seller are not on the list of exemptions, illegal. Once you own it, it's fully legal. I have several pistol no longer on The Roster. they are no illegal for me to have. Which is why this while "safety" ruse of The Roster is ludicrous and a farce.

if you DROS'd as SSE, it's listed that way. I know it's not practical for anyone to go through all the documentation to track them down - but the records do exist.

If you purchased PPT, brought from OOS, or bought when it was on the roster - then the question he asked doesn't apply anyway.

[advocatusdiaboli]

if you DROS'd as SSE, it's listed that way. I know it's not practical for anyone to go through all the documentation to track them down - but the records do exist.

If you purchased PPT, brought from OOS, or bought when it was on the roster - then the question he asked doesn't apply anyway.

It doesn't matter if a record exists: the sale was compliant with the law at the time of purchase. END OF STORY.
The pistol is legal to own for anyone per the law. Period. It is just like hi-cap magazines: legal to own, just not legal to import, buy. or manufacture without a permit or being an exempt person like an LEO.

Once you have it, it is like any other legally obtained off-Roster pistol: perfectly and absolutely legal to possess, carry, and operate. You could buy the exact same make and model through PPT and be exempt from the Roster and legally purchase and possess it. Period. Just like pistols you already own that are no longer on the Roster but still legal to own and operate.

Please stop being cowed by these liberty and freedom hating pols who hope to dissuade you from exercising your constitutional right by making it complex and nebulous as to what is legal. the SSE is a bona fide legal loophole they will close this session and enact the beginning of next year. Use it before you lose it.