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  • Cyc Wid It
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 4485

    Originally posted by RippSpeed
    Ok soo we're still good on the SSE ??? Right Cyc ???

    cuz I have a few more custom STI's coming in ... that needs SSE
    For now... this is not a scare tactic (I don't work for / am not affiliated with any shop).
    WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19

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    • bigbob76
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2007
      • 3955

      Originally posted by Cyc Wid It
      AB-169 Unsafe handguns

      (2) Existing law makes the provisions defining and governing unsafe handguns inapplicable to a single-shot pistol, as specified.
      This bill would instead make the provisions defining and governing unsafe handguns inapplicable to a single-shot pistol with a break top or bolt action. The bill would make this exemption inapplicable to a semiautomatic pistol that has been temporarily or permanently altered so that it will not fire in a semiautomatic mode. By expanding the definition of a crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program.

      This is being pushed through right now. It's also on the previous page of this thread...


      Also people, face to face and PPT are two different types of transfers. A face to face is only a PPT when it involves two CA residents. A face to face that is not a PPT is subject to the roster and whatever transfer fees the dealer feels like charging.
      I'm not disagreeing but I don't understand this. Please give an example. Thanks, Bob
      If you can't explain it simply you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein

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      • Cyc Wid It
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 4485

        If someone who is an out of state resident brings a gun over to sell to you face to face, it would not be a PPT. The dealer can charge whatever he/she likes (as if it were shipped). It also must be rostered unless it is exempt (as if it were shipped).
        WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19

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        • bigbob76
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2007
          • 3955

          Originally posted by Cyc Wid It
          If someone who is an out of state resident brings a gun over to sell to you face to face, it would not be a PPT. The dealer can charge whatever he/she likes (as if it were shipped). It also must be rostered unless it is exempt (as if it were shipped).
          Okay, thanks. I was unable to find an FFL to do this a while back. A guy had moved here from Louisiana and found out he couldn't carry his Kel Tec .380 here and wanted to sell it to me. I guess I gave up to easy looking for an FFL, they all said they wouldn't do it until he got a CA ID. He was here to stay and got an ID so I still bought it but had to wait till he got his Driver's License.
          If you can't explain it simply you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein

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          • ke6guj
            Moderator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Nov 2003
            • 23725

            Originally posted by bigbob76
            Okay, thanks. I was unable to find an FFL to do this a while back. A guy had moved here from Louisiana and found out he couldn't carry his Kel Tec .380 here and wanted to sell it to me. I guess I gave up to easy looking for an FFL, they all said they wouldn't do it until he got a CA ID. He was here to stay and got an ID so I still bought it but had to wait till he got his Driver's License.
            they were correct. if he didn't have a CA ID/DL, they couldn't do a CADOJ-defined PPT. and they couldn't do it as a standard transfer since it was an off-roster handgun. you needed to wait til he got his CADL.
            Jack



            Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

            No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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            • FourT6and2
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 1928

              Almost done with the 10 day wait for an SSE. So far, hasn't been difficult or anything. Just a matter of finding a shop nearby who will do it. It was harder to find an out-of-state dealer willing to ship an off-roster gun here. Most dealers freak out as soon as you mention CA. I'm impatient, though. Can't wait to take my second 1911 home!

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              • nav0413
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 5

                How long does it takes in using this gun?

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                • c-wick
                  Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 207

                  Originally posted by Cyc Wid It
                  If someone who is an out of state resident brings a gun over to sell to you face to face, it would not be a PPT. The dealer can charge whatever he/she likes (as if it were shipped). It also must be rostered unless it is exempt (as if it were shipped).
                  unless of course you do a SSE correct? (negates the roster)?

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                  • Cyc Wid It
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 4485

                    Yes, hence "unless it is exempt"... single shot exemption.
                    WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19

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                    • Banditfromhell
                      Junior Member
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 7

                      Can a private party (out of state) convert their pistol into a SSE form and ship it to any FFL that is willing to do the transfer?

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                      • Cyc Wid It
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 4485

                        Yes. Make sure they perform the conversion properly.
                        WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19

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                        • c-wick
                          Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 207

                          Originally posted by Cyc Wid It
                          Yes, hence "unless it is exempt"... single shot exemption.
                          Ha! Qouted and bold and I still didn't read it correct.

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                          • FourT6and2
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 1928

                            Just got a new pistol through SSE. Went over fine, no problems. Didn't seem to be any different from buying an on-roster gun. The process was the same on my end. FFL just had to do the conversion. No biggie.

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                            • Uncle Leo
                              Member
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 290

                              So is it a guarantee this sse bill will pass?

                              Seems like they'll be throwing away lots of sales tax revenue

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                              • Cyc Wid It
                                Veteran Member
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 4485

                                The roster and AW lists throw away revenue as well, but those exist.
                                WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19

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