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  • lugnutwrench
    Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 287

    Originally posted by kemasa
    Just admit it, you are a gouger since charging anything is gouging. You should offer the service for free or perhaps pay people to do it for them. It should be free transfers for all!!
    Oh yes, of course what you say is true. However, in this case, we have government-mandated gouging since it is the state who imposes the additional work and fees to begin with....
    That's just my $1.05.

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    • zrunr
      Member
      • Apr 2006
      • 172

      I am all for the free market and freedom to charge what the market will bear except when government mandates are the basis for the charges. We don't have a free market here. I would hate to speculate what a PPT would cost in most shops if the fees were not set by law. Of course the entire PPT process is unnecessary and antiquated at best. We should be able to do an instant background check without going to an FFL to sell a used gun if the state insists on such things.

      At least some transfer FFLs were honest about their price increases. I was told by one that he so many transfers currently that can't keep up with the work. There are plenty of GB and other sales to keep him fully occupied.

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      • kemasa
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jun 2005
        • 10706

        Originally posted by lugnutwrench
        Oh yes, of course what you say is true. However, in this case, we have government-mandated gouging since it is the state who imposes the additional work and fees to begin with....
        The funny thing is that the government forces the FFL to give a discounted fee ($10), but still requires that the government gets their normal fee ($25).

        It is interesting that many times when I am doing a transfer, the state gets more money through sales tax than I do, but I get to do all the work, including having to do the sales tax return at no cost, plus due to the forced rounding, I often have to send in more money than I collected for sales tax.
        Kemasa.
        False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

        Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

        Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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        • lugnutwrench
          Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 287

          Originally posted by kemasa
          The funny thing is that the government forces the FFL to give a discounted fee ($10), but still requires that the government gets their normal fee ($25).

          It is interesting that many times when I am doing a transfer, the state gets more money through sales tax than I do, but I get to do all the work, including having to do the sales tax return at no cost, plus due to the forced rounding, I often have to send in more money than I collected for sales tax.
          Silly citizen, you work for the collective, not yourself. Oh, you mean you didn't realize that and now you're no longer motivated to do a good job? We have methods of motivating you....
          That's just my $1.05.

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          • Duff45
            Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 177

            Originally posted by EBR Works
            ... After discussion with our attorney and others, it seems probable that most of the current legislation will pass ....
            Sorry this is kind of a hi-jack, but is there anything we can do to fight passage of this legislation? I've already sent multiple emails to my representatives and gotten all the canned responses.

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            • EBR Works
              Vendor/Retailer
              • Dec 2007
              • 10492

              Originally posted by Duff45
              Sorry this is kind of a hi-jack, but is there anything we can do to fight passage of this legislation? I've already sent multiple emails to my representatives and gotten all the canned responses.
              Donate to your 2A organization of choice!


              Check out our e-commerce site here:

              www.ebrworks.com

              Serving you from Prescott, AZ

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              • LBDamned
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2011
                • 19040

                Originally posted by zrunr
                I am all for the free market and freedom to charge what the market will bear except when government mandates are the basis for the charges. We don't have a free market here. I would hate to speculate what a PPT would cost in most shops if the fees were not set by law. Of course the entire PPT process is unnecessary and antiquated at best. We should be able to do an instant background check without going to an FFL to sell a used gun if the state insists on such things.

                At least some transfer FFLs were honest about their price increases. I was told by one that he so many transfers currently that can't keep up with the work. There are plenty of GB and other sales to keep him fully occupied.
                yep, me too... I wonder if it's the same one
                "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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                • ocs11115
                  Junior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 3

                  EBR works, I'm having a cz 75b stainless sent to a local ffl/gunsmith in oc. We need the parts for the SSE conversion. Could we get that stuff from you?

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                  • zrunr
                    Member
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 172

                    Call OC Armory. They are the best at this at a very fair price.

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                    • Cyc Wid It
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 4485

                      Originally posted by ocs11115
                      EBR works, I'm having a cz 75b stainless sent to a local ffl/gunsmith in oc. We need the parts for the SSE conversion. Could we get that stuff from you?
                      While I'm sure they check the thread relatively often, you should really call them to find out.
                      WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19

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                      • EBR Works
                        Vendor/Retailer
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 10492

                        Originally posted by ocs11115
                        EBR works, I'm having a cz 75b stainless sent to a local ffl/gunsmith in oc. We need the parts for the SSE conversion. Could we get that stuff from you?
                        Yep, call OC Armory. We only do SSE at our location in Thousand Oaks.


                        Check out our e-commerce site here:

                        www.ebrworks.com

                        Serving you from Prescott, AZ

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                        • Nate
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 1331

                          Originally posted by EBR Works
                          Yep, call OC Armory. We only do SSE at our location in Thousand Oaks.
                          Does OC armory do SSE conversions? 1911?

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                          • MIW173
                            Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 268

                            Does any one out there do a SSE for a Micro Desert Eagle 380 ACP if so would love to get that info?? Thanks

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                            • B16
                              Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 195

                              Just a quick question, but did the wording of AB169 change from a few weeks ago? I remember reading the bill and it mentioning the SSE, but now it seems to have been dropped.

                              Can anyone clarify?

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                              • Duff45
                                Member
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 177

                                I think its still there and it passed out of the Assembly Public Safety Committee and now goes to the Assembly Appropriations Committee.



                                (2) Existing law makes the provisions defining and governing unsafe handguns inapplicable to a single-shot pistol, as specified.
                                This bill would instead make the provisions defining and governing unsafe handguns inapplicable to a single-shot pistol with a break top or bolt action. The bill would make this exemption inapplicable to a semiautomatic pistol that has been temporarily or permanently altered so that it will not fire in a semiautomatic mode. By expanding the definition of a crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program.

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