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So, it depends on who is willing to do the conversion.
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It seems that your uncertainties are best handled by talking directly with the FFL that you are considering. Straight from the horses mouth so to speak.Last edited by terdog; 11-23-2012, 4:44 PM. -
SSE Question after reading the Threads
Planning on doing my First SSE gun. Just a few observations from reading the forum posts. Please correct me I am wrong.
I can buy the gun I want from a outstate dealer (is there a list?) that will ship the non roster gun to CA or have the CA/outstate dealer handling the SSE conversion acquire the gun. It seems the easiest way is to have your local SSE Dealer acquire the gun, do the conversion, paperwork and transfer the gun to you. . I assume the purchase price of the gun is reasonable…worst case MSRP…the small savings of personally finding the best price for the gun would offset the SSE costs.
From my recent experience with buying a butchered CA complaint gun, it's worth paying $200-300 more for a non- CA feature gun. I live in the Bay Area and Valkrie Arms seems to be the nearest 1 stop for all the SSE process. I see good comments about Tablerock Arms in Oregon. Why ship to out of state ( I understand certain guns are harder to convert and Oregon is easier to ship any firearm to then CA)…this adds another step if you can find a local SSE shop to hande your firearm?
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Many out of state sellers will not ship "off roster" guns to ffl dealers in CA.
Thus the reason to ship to an out of state ffl..."But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John DrydenComment
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FYI, I talked to the person that I know at the BATF (who is most likely reading this :-) and was told that single shot conversions are not manufacturing as long as there is no modification to the firearm and that it is a pre-existing, complete functioning firearm. You do need to be licensed as a dealer or gunsmith (basically the same) in order to do the conversion. The answer is not for the publication though, so it is only word of mouth, but if you ever get into trouble regarding this, I can tell you who to call as a witness :-).
It was also said that the drop-in trigger FAQ needs to be changed as it is old and things have changed since then.Kemasa.
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We have recently been informed by our local BATF supervisor "word of mouth" (no official memo), that if you take an existing firearm and convert / alter the "operation" of the firearm from the original factory configuration ( i.e. semi-auto to single shot) by having to install new parts then they are considering this re-manufacturing the gun, unless the original manufacturer of the gun makes / offers a single shot configuration.
We were advised to obtain a variance letter from BATF so we do not need to re-mark the semi-auto pistols we convert to SSE.
Just passing along this information.
We can't say we agree with it, but we do not make the regulations.ADDAX TACTICAL
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Who is your local BATF supervisor? You can send me a PM and I will forward that to the person that I know and they can talk about it :-). The reason I ask is that I heard back today from the person I know at the BATF and he received a response back from up high and that it is not manufacturing. This is from the LA Field Division, but he also mentioned San Francisco. If you got that response before today, then I would ask the question again.
He may not be aware of the recent response (which is not for publication, so it is just word of mouth until/unless he can get approve to give it out).Kemasa.
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I can confirm what Kemasa has said. I had a conversation with the same ATF person today.Comment
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Kemasa.
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The conversation took place a couple months ago.
Kemasa I will pm you the info.
If you can also get us in touch with your contact that would great.ADDAX TACTICAL
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Yes, things change as the answer just came back, which means that instead of guessing, it is more certain (until things change).Kemasa.
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It is not about the CA law, it is about modifying a firearm, which can be a Federal issue. There are limits as to what transfers are considered acceptable. A FFL can not just sell it, but a PPT is ok.Kemasa.
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