Single Shot Exemption Explanation/Database Thread

[jimmyjjohn]

This is kind of iffy in my opinion. Andy, based on how things went today, I think they're still unsure of themselves. The guy that did the PPT for us today wasn't sure how to do an off-roster PPT even though it's done like any other one. Then their boss or supervisor seemed skeptical about the whole single shot exemption and that they've never done one for regular pistols, just the AR pistols and AK pistols. Then again, they said if it's legal they'll do it. The guy who helped us said they will so go for it but I'd rather go through someone who was sure that they will do it.

Thanks again Andy! You've helped me complete my XDm collection... Maybe you can help me start my 1911 collection next? Haha

[kemasa]

PPTs are exempt from the certified list. There is no issue.

[Sklldr]

Long-time lurker, first post. Bear with me on the noob question, but I've read through most of this thread, and wanted to do a basic summary of my understanding. Let me know if I'm wrong on any of this.

If we're talking about a semi-automatic pistol, I have until 12/31/14 to pick up an SSE'd (off-roster) pistol, which entails a non-permanent installation of a barrel to bring it to within requirements, as well as a magwell block of some sort. Once received, I can then (seemingly easily according to some people) replace the barrel with the original that was on the gun, and remove the magwell block - bringing the gun back to OEM state. And the above is all legal. Am I misinterpreting anything (quite possible)?

I'm looking to get the HK VP9 and have found a local (norcal) dealer that can do the SSE, but before i pull the trigger on the buy, wanted to make absolutely sure that i'm not misunderstanding something.

Thanks for all the tips so far!

[EatsEverything]

You've pretty much got it covered.

Check with your FFL to see if they're willing to receive an unmodified VP9 and do the modifications for you as part of their service. That'll make it easier for you to shop around as many vendors won't bother installing the kits for you.

Check also with your FFL on their DROS cutoff time. Many are now going with a 12/31 filing deadline, but some may still be operating under the assumption that you have to pick up by 12/31.

Additionally, some FFLs can do the SSE but do not have the high cap mag permit to deal with the magazines for you. Check to make sure your FFL can take care of that or expect to either lose the magazines and replace them with 10rd mags.

[Sklldr]

You've pretty much got it covered.

Check with your FFL to see if they're willing to receive an unmodified VP9 and do the modifications for you as part of their service. That'll make it easier for you to shop around as many vendors won't bother installing the kits for you.

Check also with your FFL on their DROS cutoff time. Many are now going with a 12/31 filing deadline, but some may still be operating under the assumption that you have to pick up by 12/31.

Additionally, some FFLs can do the SSE but do not have the high cap mag permit to deal with the magazines for you. Check to make sure your FFL can take care of that or expect to either lose the magazines and replace them with 10rd mags.

Appreciate the response man. Good stuff to know. I think regardless of the cutoff time, I'm going to aim to get the gun prior to 12/31. I'm hoping to get everything processed by late November, so that should leave plenty of time to get everything settled prior to 12/31. As for the mags, i guess worse comes to worst, i lose the mags and have to get my own 10rders, but i could live with that. My original concern was that at the end of the day, it's legal to undo the SSE conversion to bring it back to OEM.

[EatsEverything]

Perfectly legal to remove the SSE kit barrel and replace it with OEM parts.

Your sheriff's department may disagree on whether or not a pistol acquired through SSE is valid for CCW, but that's a whole different can of worms.

[Sklldr]

Perfectly legal to remove the SSE kit barrel and replace it with OEM parts.

Your sheriff's department may disagree on whether or not a pistol acquired through SSE is valid for CCW, but that's a whole different can of worms.

Haha, I won't have to worry about that since I don't plan on CCW with this. I just wanted something nice to shoot at the range and for HD. Btw, when you say remove/replace the SSE kit barrel, i assume you also mean removal of the magwell block, right? Are you even allowed to mess with the magazines themselves?

[EatsEverything]

Yes, the process would include removing the magwell block.

As far as messing with the magazines... they're supposed to be permanently blocked to 10 rounds.

[Cyc Wid It]

As a reminder, if anyone plans to try and buy another SSE gun before time's up, please get in touch with your FFL now and plan accordingly. If an FFL is unable to accommodate your transaction due to backlog/demand, it's not personal.

Side note: it's been a fun ride and I've enjoyed maintaining this thread with the help of several vendors, members and admins. I hope that people have been able to get what they want + local shops have been able to grow their businesses. While other constraints have limited my time on the forums this calendar year (and unfortunately shooting time), I've done my best to keep everything as current as possible. Who knows what the next project will be?

Now about that possibility of one final SSE.

[Geotoxic]

Are LE subject to this SSE for AR pistols?

I know they can buy off roster handguns at any time, but what about the AR pistols?

[akspetsnaz]

Again, revolver can still be SSE'd after 1/1/15.

Correct?

[EatsEverything]

No and yes.

No: You cannot SSE them.

Yes: You can SAE them.

End result is you can still get revolvers in 2015.

[ke6guj]

Are LE subject to this SSE for AR pistols?

I know they can buy off roster handguns at any time, but what about the AR pistols?

an LEO can buy an off-roster CA-legal AR-pistol today, and will be able to do so in 2015 as well. no need to SSE for them.

[mundo510]

Sorry if this has been answered already but there are a ton of posts to read through. So I'm looking to buy a new glock 19, and a buddy of mine who is a leo, suggested him buying it because he gets blue ticket prices and then transferring it to me. Brentwood armory said it was for leo only and LC action had no clue. Does that sound right? How else is someone supposed to get a new glock? I k own there is a new law starting at beginning of the new year but a bit confused on the whole matter, thanks.

[rajat07me]