San Joaquin

[HK-DEMON-]

Should the CCW training be passed first before the actual appointment, and will it increase the probabilities of getting approved for the CCW during the interview if i bring it to the attention of the Sheriff?

[Zamble]

The app says, if the Sheriff has signed the CCW application, new applicants must then complete a 16 hour course.

[HK-DEMON-]

The app says, if the Sheriff has signed the CCW application, new applicants must then complete a 16 hour course.

Sweet!

[DRAB_81]

Not that it matters yet, but does anyone know if PC832 an approved alternative to the 16hr CCW Training Course in SJ county?

San Joaquin County will accept this but, many other counties will not. You have to have completed the entire 832 course including the powers of arrest portion as well as the firearms portion.

Thanks, that's exactly what I was hoping for. I took both modules of PC832 a little over a year ago (Arson Investigation), now all I need is a CCW Permit...

So now that it finally looks like I might actually be getting a LTC, I need to ask again. Is PC832 still equivalent to a 16hr CCW course? And does it matter that I took PC832 back in 2010?

[jbolton]

You will need to retake the class

[mdib870]

i got emailed my application…. do i just take it into s.o. and give it to them or do i have to make an appointment to turn in my application

and also how does the payment work do i bring it in with the application or when my appointment comes up

[Nor*Cal]

Did you read the 10 page packet of documents that was sent in addition to the application? Is has all of the info you are asking.

Next step is to call and schedule your appointment. You will then take the paperwork and payments with you to the appointment. Read the documents they sent you for the fee info.

[3of9]

If you want a yard sign or bumper sticker let me know I can get that to you.

[herccheif]

so do I need to email the SO to get the packet or can I just use the standard DOJ form?

Ive already called and scheduled and appointment. I was able to get one for April 2nd. and that was requested, id sounded like she was about ready to give me an appointment for early march.

[HK-DEMON-]

I was able to call Melanie in the wee hours of the morning. She immediately sent me an E-mail containing the application and instructions, she also set my appointment in April, which I believe is quite a bit ways from now.

What should I expect during the interview?

[RANGER295]

If we were previously denied based on "lack of good cause" could we do this through some kind of appeal process rather than starting over with a new application? I have heard that we do not need a new livescan. Is this true? Part of me wonders if this is even worth it.

[3of9]

I will wait. I rather see Pat signature on my license if I get one. Even if S.M is magically giving out unrestricted permit we all know he is doing it for the wrong reason.

[Nor*Cal]

If we were previously denied based on "lack of good cause" could we do this through some kind of appeal process rather than starting over with a new application? I have heard that we do not need a new livescan. Is this true? Part of me wonders if this is even worth it.

From what I have read, appeals to denials or revocations must be submitted in writing within 30 days from the date of the notification letter.

Not sure about the need for a new livescan. Your best bet is to call Melanie and ask. 209-468-4342.

And I too wonder if all this is worth it but I want to believe it is and that things are finally changing. Time will soon tell.

[3of9]

☆☆☆★★★Pat will be on the radio. ★★★☆☆☆
"Just a reminder for the cal gun guys that I will be on AM 1360 or AM 1280 talk radio at 3:00pm if any have questions or comments"

[Heatseeker]

In regards to the Livescan fee, Melanie told me that I would need to pay it again since it has been over a year since I had applied with the SJCSD and been denied. This is in direct conflict with what the PC says:

PC 26185 states:
(a) (1) The fingerprints of each applicant shall be taken
and two copies on forms prescribed by the Department of Justice shall
be forwarded to the department.
(2) Upon receipt of the fingerprints and the fee as prescribed in
Section 26190, the department shall promptly furnish the forwarding
licensing authority a report of all data and information pertaining
to any applicant of which there is a record in its office, including
information as to whether the person is prohibited by state or
federal law from possessing, receiving, owning, or purchasing a
firearm.
(3) No license shall be issued by any licensing authority until
after receipt of the report from the department.
[B][/26185. (a) (1) The fingerprints of each applicant shall be taken
and two copies on forms prescribed by the Department of Justice shall
be forwarded to the department.
(2) Upon receipt of the fingerprints and the fee as prescribed in
Section 26190, the department shall promptly furnish the forwarding
licensing authority a report of all data and information pertaining
to any applicant of which there is a record in its office, including
information as to whether the person is prohibited by state or
federal law from possessing, receiving, owning, or purchasing a
firearm.
(3) No license shall be issued by any licensing authority until
after receipt of the report from the department.
(b) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), if the license applicant has
previously applied to the same licensing authority for a license to
carry firearms pursuant to this article and the applicant's
fingerprints and fee have been previously forwarded to the Department
of Justice, as provided by this section, the licensing authority
shall note the previous identification numbers and other data that
would provide positive identification in the files of the Department
of Justice on the copy of any subsequent license submitted to the
department in conformance with Section 26225 and no additional
application form or fingerprints shall be required.
(c) If the license applicant has a license issued pursuant to this
article and the applicant's fingerprints have been previously
forwarded to the Department of Justice, as provided in this section,
the licensing authority shall note the previous identification
numbers and other data that would provide positive identification in
the files of the Department of Justice on the copy of any subsequent
license submitted to the department in conformance with Section 26225
and no additional fingerprints shall be required.

(b) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), if the license applicant has
previously applied to the same licensing authority for a license to
carry firearms pursuant to this article and the applicant's
fingerprints and fee have been previously forwarded to the Department
of Justice, as provided by this section, the licensing authority
shall note the previous identification numbers and other data that
would provide positive identification in the files of the Department
of Justice on the copy of any subsequent license submitted to the
department in conformance with Section 26225 and no additional
application form or fingerprints shall be required.
(c) If the license applicant has a license issued pursuant to this
article and the applicant's fingerprints have been previously
forwarded to the Department of Justice, as provided in this section,
the licensing authority shall note the previous identification
numbers and other data that would provide positive identification in
the files of the Department of Justice on the copy of any subsequent
license submitted to the department in conformance with Section 26225
and no additional fingerprints shall be required.