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  • OHOD
    I need a LIFE!!
    CGN Contributor
    • Jan 2009
    • 11047

    Originally posted by Sublime_AC
    Start with the PD and if they say go to the Sheriff then go to the Sheriff. Does your work have any policies with regards to firearms?

    That's one of the issues I have... I commute to the bay area, I am in rural areas during my commute with high end computer gear almost daily and I work strange hours. BUT... My employer has a strict no firearms policy, so I cannot use this as justification since they will certainly be contacting my employer if I bring this up.

    Crafting your just cause is the second most important thing behind having a clean record.
    Good point.
    I need to find that out on Monday.
    When I go to the Manteca PD, who would I ask?
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    • Sublime_AC
      Banned
      • Dec 2007
      • 278

      Originally posted by OHOD
      Good point.
      I need to find that out on Monday.
      When I go to the Manteca PD, who would I ask?
      When you get to the clerk at the counter, or behind bullet proof glass just tell them you are interested in filing for a concealed carry permit, they should be able to direct you to the appropriate personnel.

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      • elness
        Junior Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 2

        Originally posted by OHOD
        Good point.
        I need to find that out on Monday.
        When I go to the Manteca PD, who would I ask?
        I don't know if the Manteca PD CCW process has been changed, but I know when I applied less than a year ago (and was denied because my good cause of self defense was not good enough), the process was inefficient and expensive.

        Before they accepted my CCW packet, I had to:
        (1) Purchase my firearm (for my S&W M&P .40 Compact, $550), holster, & ammo;
        (2) Attend PC 832 firearms training (approx. $400); and
        (3) Attend one of Manteca PD's two CCW firearms qualifications sessions (held in spring and fall of each year) ($25).

        My own cost was much higher because I also bought (and filed to carry) a S&W M&P .40 full-frame at the same time (another $550).

        After all that was said and done and the CCW packet was submitted, the police captain who processes CCW applications interviewed me (after interviewing my references) and said that although everything looked OK, my good cause statement was probably not good enough, because my situation was not unlike every other city resident.

        Ultimately, the police chief went along with his captain's recommendation, and I was denied for lack of good cause.

        I pointed out to the chief that I wished I could have found out sooner that pure self defense would not suffice, because of how much money I had already spent on the CCW process. He indicated that he understood my concern, and that he would review the process.
        Last edited by elness; 01-04-2013, 4:42 PM. Reason: Clarification

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        • k6withrow
          Junior Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 10

          Withrow for Sheriff

          Good Morning! My name is Patrick Withrow and I'm running for Sheriff of San Joaquin County. I have been following your comments for many months and I have had the pleasure of meeting some of you at different events. I just wanted to let you know that on March 3rd, 2013 I will be having a "Taco Feed" at Amblers Hall in Stockton from 1700-to 2000hrs (5:00pm to 8:00 pm). Its $20 a head (all you can eat) and kids eat free. I would love the opportunity to speak with you face to face. You can get to know me and find out where I stand on many of the issues that are very important to you, me and our families. For more info about me you can go to www.withrowforsheriff.com. For more info about the Taco Dinner please go to my Facebook. I look forward to meeting all of you.

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          • dcguillory
            Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 214

            still no comments re Mr Withrow?
            1 Kings 20:11

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            • CpuFixrMan
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • May 2009
              • 247

              Well, I haven't had a lot of time to check out his website. Also, I noticed that after nearly a year, he has only the one post. Reserving judgement until I have an informed opinion.
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              • Stockton
                Vendor/Retailer
                • Oct 2007
                • 1316

                Tagged.
                http://youtu.be/7Ii2kyQP-Is

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                • FatCity67
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 5734

                  Originally posted by k6withrow
                  Good Morning! My name is Patrick Withrow and I'm running for Sheriff of San Joaquin County. I have been following your comments for many months and I have had the pleasure of meeting some of you at different events. I just wanted to let you know that on March 3rd, 2013 I will be having a "Taco Feed" at Amblers Hall in Stockton from 1700-to 2000hrs (5:00pm to 8:00 pm). Its $20 a head (all you can eat) and kids eat free. I would love the opportunity to speak with you face to face. You can get to know me and find out where I stand on many of the issues that are very important to you, me and our families. For more info about me you can go to www.withrowforsheriff.com. For more info about the Taco Dinner please go to my Facebook. I look forward to meeting all of you.
                  Commit to SHALL ISSUE?

                  If your going up against the Moore political machine you might as well go all the way.
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                  • WeiseGuy
                    Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 411

                    It appears the links to prior just cause statements are down. Are there new links?

                    I'm getting a G23 soon and want to apply for CCW in SJ.
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                    • HowardW56
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 5901

                      Originally posted by WeiseGuy
                      It appears the links to prior just cause statements are down. Are there new links?

                      I'm getting a G23 soon and want to apply for CCW in SJ.
                      The link worked for me.....

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                      • WeiseGuy
                        Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 411

                        Worked for me now too, thanks! Must've been a one off.
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                        • Zamble
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 2354

                          I emailed Mr. Withrow tonight asking his position on the 2nd Amendment and CCW stance. Here is his reply.

                          "Mr. xxxxxxx,
                          Thank You for taking the time to write and voice your concern. As you may have guessed I get this question a lot lately and I'm very familiar with Mr. Moores campaign stance and flip flop on this issue. I believe that my job as Sheriff, as it pertains to CCW's, is to make sure there is no legal or mental heath issue that would keep a citizen from being issued a CCW. If there is no such issue then every citizen should have equal access to a CCW. It is our legal right to be able to protect ourselves, families and neighbors and in these trying times we in law enforcement need as much help as we can get.

                          I would enjoy speaking to you and others in the Calguns community at anytime. Please feel free to contact me, that is my personal cell number, and or set up a meeting where I could speak to more of your members. Thanks again for the questions."

                          He got back to me within a few hours which I appreciate.

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                          • Adaz
                            Junior Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 1

                            Hello everyone,

                            I have of lately been interested in trying obtain a ccw especially with how bad the crime in Stockton is. Unfortunately, I do not consider myself above the normal citizen as Sheriff Moore continually stresses yet still denies individuals. My GC would simply be for my families (3 young daughters & wife) and my protection. One specific reason would be that we enjoy family walks throughout our neighborhood and surroundings and have seen of latley more vacant homes being taken over by squatters and undesirable people you would not want living around you. Infact, the house 2 houses down from us was raided by the stockton PD.

                            I know my background is squeaky clean, no arrests, DUI's, moving violations, no run ins whatsoever. Yet, I am unnecessarily discouraged with Sheriff Moore and all the denials posted on this thread.

                            I do have a cousin who is currently a SGT with the San Joaquin Sheriffs dept. Would my chances be increased if I asked him to write a simple letter attesting to my moral character? I am asking this because I am not sure if I should even try or maybe wait until next year when the current sheriff may be replaced.?

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                            • G lock
                              Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 469

                              At least the criminals in Stockton can conceal carry


                              skip to 2:20


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                              • Tavern Keeper
                                Member
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 371

                                CCW challenge

                                How does the challenge process work? Had a CCW in Manteca and had renewed once. New Police Chief denied renewal. Went to SJSD and after almost 7 months was issued a permit but now have restrictions. Would like to help others in Manteca & get rid of restrictions. Will make all documents available to CGF if I can be directed to proper person.

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