San Joaquin

[oldwilly51]

How did your renewal go?

[Mama Tiger]

Just curious if there is a pattern to Sheriff Moore's denials as to the gender of the applicant?

[mbz dr]

I notice that Stockon PD web site have CCW info that it never had online. also they are looking more friendly with there requirements to what it was in the past. Any one can share more? Is it time for stocktonian to apply at P.D?

[biglou]

Considering the murder rate and armed robbery in Stockton, maybe the PD realizes it's lost the war on crime.

[Jedi]

The only change to the SPD policy is that they now require $$ upfront. The wording of the good cause requirement is exactly as it was prior to Chief Jones.

[GrizFyrFyter]

Anyone think this helps our case?

http://lonelyconservative.com/2012/12/citizen-with-concealed-carry-permit-may-have-save-lives-during-oregon-mall-shooting/

[vmcdonnell]

Chief Jones is under fire (no pun intended) with all the homicides and armed robberies so it looks like he's decided to take back the CCW issuing for the city of Stockton back from Sheriff Moore. It looks like it's going to be easier, otherwise I can't imagine why he wouldn't just keep passing the buck to Moore unless he recognizes that he's just not giving them out to all the people who deserve them. I'm applying after the new year. Wish me luck!

[Sublime_AC]

I live in Escalon, I actually have a Riverbank mailing address which is in Stanislaus county. I do not know the best route to success for a CCW. I can relocate to Stanislaus county, but the interview schedule is currently over one year out. I went to the Escalon Police department today hoping to talk to their police chief or somebody who could give me some input as to whether they'd issue to a 13 year resident in an unincorporated area or if they'd pass me off to San Joaquin Sheriff's department...

It is my understanding that San Joaquin is a tuff county to obtain a CCW.

What are your guys thoughts? Should I relocate and hope for an opening in the interview schedule?

Or head down the path of Escalon PD / San Joaquin sheriff?

[Jedi]

VMCDonnell:

Having spoken with a number of people in SPD who are "in the know" about LTC, I do not believe that the change in policy indicates an intent to issue more LTC. If anything, the new policy is a way to cover their cost up-front of processing the application... regardless of if it is approved or denied. That being said, it never hurts to apply and you will never know until you try.

Sublime_AC:
I would recommend talking to/applying with Escalon PD first. While I have not heard of them actively issuing, it may be as simple as no one has asked. Like I said before, you never know until you try.

[Gray Peterson]

I live in Escalon, I actually have a Riverbank mailing address which is in Stanislaus county. I do not know the best route to success for a CCW. I can relocate to Stanislaus county, but the interview schedule is currently over one year out. I went to the Escalon Police department today hoping to talk to their police chief or somebody who could give me some input as to whether they'd issue to a 13 year resident in an unincorporated area or if they'd pass me off to San Joaquin Sheriff's department...

It is my understanding that San Joaquin is a tuff county to obtain a CCW.

What are your guys thoughts? Should I relocate and hope for an opening in the interview schedule?

Or head down the path of Escalon PD / San Joaquin sheriff?

If you don't live in the city, you can't apply there.

[Sublime_AC]

If you don't live in the city, you can't apply there.

This is what I do not understand, I purchased my home here in Escalon 13 years ago. I have lived in the same home, paid taxes, supported the schools and community, yet I do not get to use the services of the Escalon PD?

There is ONE sheriff on patrol for the rural San Joaquin county area that I live in. ONE... He covers from Tracy, through Ripon, to Escalon and back to Stockton. Geographically this is a HUGE area of farmland, with what amounts to almost zero police coverage.

I go for walks in the rural area, if something were to happen I would be screwed. I called the sheriff once in an emergency situation, firearm pointed at bad guy, 45 minute response. So I know I am on my own, my county sheriff will likely deny my CCW and the local PD will not give me one because I am not in the incorporated part of town??? This to me amounts to a tremendous pile of bulli*****...


Kalifornia is so screwed in how they handle CCW. In light of last years shootings and our liberal minded politicians I do not see this getting better.

[RANGER295]

This is what I do not understand, I purchased my home here in Escalon 13 years ago. I have lived in the same home, paid taxes, supported the schools and community, yet I do not get to use the services of the Escalon PD?

There is ONE sheriff on patrol for the rural San Joaquin county area that I live in. ONE... He covers from Tracy, through Ripon, to Escalon and back to Stockton. Geographically this is a HUGE area of farmland, with what amounts to almost zero police coverage.

I go for walks in the rural area, if something were to happen I would be screwed. I called the sheriff once in an emergency situation, firearm pointed at bad guy, 45 minute response. So I know I am on my own, my county sheriff will likely deny my CCW and the local PD will not give me one because I am not in the incorporated part of town??? This to me amounts to a tremendous pile of bulli*****...


Kalifornia is so screwed in how they handle CCW. In light of last years shootings and our liberal minded politicians I do not see this getting better.

[Sublime_AC]

I am on the outskirts of Escalon as you get closer to Riverbank. It's pretty rural for sure. When I go for walks I carry my knife and quality pepper spray. One on one I have no problems, but if there are multiple dogs / perps or a firearm in the hands of a criminal I would be toast. I enjoy my walks and I don't believe I should have to be relatively disarmed to take them.

As for owning a firearm to defend yourself, yeah it's a must, the police coverage out here is basically nonexistent.

[OHOD]

I live in Manteca and want to apply.

Do I submit my application to Manteca PD or SJ Sheriffs Office?

Since one of the reasons I have for good cause is my work and my work brings me to Stockton, then I'm thinking Sheriff.

I would appreciate any advice.

[Sublime_AC]

Start with the PD and if they say go to the Sheriff then go to the Sheriff. Does your work have any policies with regards to firearms?

That's one of the issues I have... I commute to the bay area, I am in rural areas during my commute with high end computer gear almost daily and I work strange hours. BUT... My employer has a strict no firearms policy, so I cannot use this as justification since they will certainly be contacting my employer if I bring this up.

Crafting your just cause is the second most important thing behind having a clean record.