San Bernardino

[morrcarr67]

It was 2 split classes of roughy 80 people each yesterday...4/28. Very positive experience, everyone at SBSO were extremely nice and welcoming. The current staff run a great CCW program.

Well that's good and bad news.

Good news is it sounds like they are working hard to get caught up.

Bad news is that it sounds like they are still way behind.

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[38Special]

Well that's good and bad news.

Good news is it sounds like they are working hard to get caught up.

Bad news is that it sounds like they are still way behind.

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Not to long ago the CCW dept was doing/receiving 80 new applications a month.
Last time I talked to my CCW contact person they were at 80 per week.
The same department handles sworn personal, reserves and volunteers.....lots to do for a handful of folks!!!

[reznunt]

I carry in San Manuel, as corny as it is... concealed is concealed. You're not breaking any law, but if they see you they'll probably ask you to leave. Indian reservations in California defer to state gun laws.

Not if you know the floor people or pit bosses, or so I'm told. A friend was told that he was printing and to just be more mindful of it.

[Chewy65]

Not if you know the floor people or pit bosses, or so I'm told. A friend was told that he was printing and to just be more mindful of it.

Are you saying if you lose enough they could care less.

[reznunt]

Are you saying if you lose enough they could care less.

Not necessarily lose a lot, but maybe if you're a regular they'd look the other way.

[ACfixer]

Not necessarily lose a lot, but maybe if you're a regular they'd look the other way.

I think you're probably right, act like an adult and act like you've been there before... I tested Morongo on Sunday and didn't suffer any ill effects, and I didn't lose.

[38Special]

Reading some posts over at the FB SB County CCW page that are saying they were REQUIRED to have notarized rental agreements and copies of property tax bills. First I have heard of this. Anyone in here actually have this happen to them?

[38Special]

At my renewal this year it was same as it has always been; property tax bill or rental agreement. The rental agreement I provided wasn't notarized.

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Same for me a year ago.
I think those FB people are a little 'confused'.

[Cokebottle]

Ya, how are you going to have a rental agreement notarized? Notaries follow specific requirements and have different forms and stamps for different situations.
I needed to get a release notarized for a Walmart injury payment to my wife, but from the format of the form, the notary wasn't really sure how to handle it, and that was just the two of us, both present.

If you're renting from a large property management company, you aren't going to be able to drag a rep down to AAA for a signature.

Perhaps they are clamping down on people renting from their parents, or people who have no utilities or vehicle registration in their name at their claimed address.
How many times does it come up here where someone doesn't own a car, has no utilities, and is rooming with a friend and not on the lease, or living with their parents.
Personally, I don't get it how someone 21+ does not have at least a scooter or SOMETHING with DMV reg in SoCal.

[38Special]

Ya, how are you going to have a rental agreement notarized? Notaries follow specific requirements and have different forms and stamps for different situations.
I needed to get a release notarized for a Walmart injury payment to my wife, but from the format of the form, the notary wasn't really sure how to handle it, and that was just the two of us, both present.

If you're renting from a large property management company, you aren't going to be able to drag a rep down to AAA for a signature.

Perhaps they are clamping down on people renting from their parents, or people who have no utilities or vehicle registration in their name at their claimed address.
How many times does it come up here where someone doesn't own a car, has no utilities, and is rooming with a friend and not on the lease, or living with their parents.
Personally, I don't get it how someone 21+ does not have at least a scooter or SOMETHING with DMV reg in SoCal.

Agreed

[Free Dumb]

It was 2 split classes of roughy 80 people each yesterday...4/28. Very positive experience, everyone at SBSO were extremely nice and welcoming. The current staff run a great CCW program.

I was in the class with Deputy Mason and it was great. Man were there some knuckleheads in the audience though, arguing and debating him about trivial stuff.

Here are my tips for range day:

There are signs that guide you to the proper parking lot and also to the classroom.

Get there early and walk your *** to the classroom. Don't hang out in your car until 7:57am. I walked into the classroom at 7:45am and it was already packed.

Respect the instructors. If you disagree with their "advice", great. Keep it to yourself. Apparently some of the 70+ year old men in my class would rather end up dead than in front of a jury.

Bring a pen or two. There are things to sign in the classroom.

Bring a hat or visor for outside, and wear sunscreen if you're pasty.

Bring a set of "outdoor" safety glasses with some tint or anti-glare. I brought my indoor set and it sucked.

Your guns will be inspected thoroughly at the range. Grips, lasers, flashlights, and trigger "improvements" are OK. Things that will get rejected are hair triggers and garage mods not designed for the gun.

Bring at least two magazines for your pistols. Part of the shooting test is to shoot 5 rounds, drop the mag, insert a new one/chamber a round, and fire 5 more times. If you only bring one mag, you will be fumbling around with ammo at the firing line while everyone else is waiting for you to finish. If you use a revolver, bring a few speed loaders.

In my opinion, the deputies are mainly looking for safe handling and grip of your weapons. Given the short distance, you could probably shoot the target one-handed with your weak side and still pass.

Right before they let us go home , one gentleman felt the need to complain again about how much this all costs and where all the money goes. The deputy explained (with great class) that some of the people helping out at the range are volunteers, so be sure to thank them.

[38Special]

Redlands PD

Redlands PD :
EFFECTIVE MAY 1, 2018, We will no longer be accepting applications for a Concealed Weapons Permit.

All applications for new and renewal CCWs must be submitted to the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department.
LINK

[FlyingShooter]

Jesus, put 'Redlands' in there somewhere. That scared me to death

So, is this a good thing for Redlands residents? More work for SBSD?

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LOL. I read that too, and I think almost had a coronary...

There was a separate thread about that already here a week or so ago...

[38Special]

Jesus, put 'Redlands' in there somewhere. That scared me to death

So, is this a good thing for Redlands residents? More work for SBSD?

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LOL. I read that too, and I think almost had a coronary...

There was a separate thread about that already here a week or so ago...

If you look at the top of the thread post is says REDLANDS PD.

[Cokebottle]

I was in the class with Deputy Mason and it was great. Man were there some knuckleheads in the audience though, arguing and debating him about trivial stuff.

No kidding.

Whether Deputy Mason is a member here or not (for that matter, ANY of the current team) is unknown, but like any normal person, he does not spend hours upon hours scouring the law and memorizing code that doesn't apply to his every-day duties.

Yes, any instructor occasionally puts out some FUD... but the nice thing about FUD is it is not going to put anyone in jail.
In my renewal class, he said that as of last January, ammunition would be serialized... he likely confused the new ammo laws with the microstamping laws.
I cringed, but resisted rolling my eyes.
Fortunately, the only thing from the group was "wow!" and none of the boneheads challenged him on it.


It's his class. You don't have to agree with him, and you aren't going to change his mind. Just pass the class, and if you are REALLY concerned that he correct something you believe to be incorrect, the time to do it is after class, or even better, a few days later after you have a chance to print out some documentation supporting your opinion.
That is helpful for everyone, without making you look like the jerk trying to look smarter than the instructor.