San Bernardino

[voodoomedman]

I remember it as 3 yards. It was also more about handling and safety than accuracy.

This but I gotta say... We aren't talking 50 yards. If you are worries about hitting at 5 yards please go get some training. 5 yards is just barely to the point where you might miss if just looking at the front sight. Definitely anything 3 or inside would be a hit if you just place the front post on your target. But yes they are looking for safety. Bruce will likely question you to make fun of you if you have bad groups etc but if you aren't doing anything stupid you'll get your qual card signed.


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[stvo760]

I remember it as 3 yards. It was also more about handling and safety than accuracy.

Thanks! That's what I thought it might be too, damn that's awful close! And yes, I know and agree that it's all about handling and safety. I don't plan on wowing anyone either. I run other drills on a pretty regular basis I was just planning on running some of these drills too, put them in the mix.

[71MUSTY]

It's 5 yrds give or take a foot.

3 yrds is FUD. Sorry

5 yrds is 15 feet.

3 yrds is 9 ft.

[jww]

Don't know that I'd call it FUD but it's definitely less than 15' and more than 9'.

There were definitely new shooters in my class that were hitting with no problem though. Have some time on your guns and you'll be good.

Also had two people put their hearing protection on with gun in hand. Pointed right at their heads. That doesn't go over very well.

[voodoomedman]

It's 5 yrds give or take a foot.



3 yrds is FUD. Sorry



5 yrds is 15 feet.



3 yrds is 9 ft.

Been years for initial but when I did an add earlier this year I thought it was 3. I could be wrong though or maybe he just had us do it because of the range we were on.

Anyhow the difference between 3 and 5 really shouldn't matter. 5 yards is where you usually start with full sight alignment. 3 yards is close and you might be doing other things to get that shot off before the bad guy gets to you. If you can't hit at 5 you need some serious training or practice.


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[jww]

Couple more things that were issues in my class.

Make sure your weapons are clean.

No hot trigger jobs or spring kits.

Don't be late.

[stvo760]

No, 3yrds or 5yds shouldn't be any problem. And my handling and safety skills have been ingrained into me as a kid 40+ years ago then solidly hammered into me in the Marine Corps LOL

Before I knew what the qualification actually was I've been doing all kinds of practice drills in motion - such as drawing from the holster for head or body shots at different distances, tactical and emergency reloads, clearing drills, etc, etc. and I have to say... those kinds of drills help greatly in dealing with real life situations. My drills now start at 5yrds and work back to 15yrds. So yeah, being 9 feet away did feel a bit funny.

[jaymz]

Accuracy isn't a big requirement. I was one of the last shooters at my class. There was probably 10-12 people that had used the target before me. It should have been Swiss cheese. It wasn't. I could almost count the holes. A fair shooter could likely pass with their eyes closed.

[Paperchasin]

No hot trigger jobs or spring kits.

Define "hot"

[jww]

Define "hot"

I don't remember all the details.... Sorry it's been almost 2 years... I just remember trigger jobs being a problem.

The thing that sticks in my mind most is sights and grips were about the only changes that didn't cause concern.

[Paperchasin]

I don't remember all the details.... Sorry it's been almost 2 years... I just remember trigger jobs being a problem.

The thing that sticks in my mind most is sights and grips were about the only changes that didn't cause concern.

Do you know if they actually used a trigger pull gauge? I read in the OC forum that one of the sheriff's did that, but as long as the pull was greater than 5#, it was okay. I only ask because I just installed a DCAEK trigger (~5.5# pull) on my Shield that I plan on applying with.

[jww]

No gauge

Visually inspected each. If something didn't look factory, he pulled the slide and visually inspected further.

[barracudamuscle]

Do you know if they actually used a trigger pull gauge? I read in the OC forum that one of the sheriff's did that, but as long as the pull was greater than 5#, it was okay. I only ask because I just installed a DCAEK trigger (~5.5# pull) on my Shield that I plan on applying with.

This probably won't be much help to you but I have a off roster 9mm shield on mine that I had no issues with, granted I didn't do a trigger job on it.

Without getting off topic I don't want to leave any legal loop holes open to use me or my family god forbid I need it one day.

I'd think you'd be fine. Worse case take it home, make it stock then bring it back to run the numbers then when you get it home do with it as you wish after the class.

Better yet, do all that now that way it's smooth for ya!

[Paperchasin]

Thanks for the responses gentlemen...much appreciated

[DMotivate]

It's 5 yrds give or take a foot.

3 yrds is FUD. Sorry

5 yrds is 15 feet.

3 yrds is 9 ft.

Don't assume it's the same for every class. Today's range day was 3 yards. It felt like I could reach out and touch the target we were so close.