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  • Nopal
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 666

    Denied for being a DM suspect.

    My wife and I applied for permits with the SB Sheriffs dept. She got her background check approval a little bit over two months after the interview. My background check decision languished for over a month more. Nearly a month ago I received a denial. They wouldn't tell me why except that I didn't pass the background check. I did my own investigation and the only thing that even remotely amounts to a record for me is a domestic violence call that I made where my Ex and I were getting divorced and she tried to take away something from my hands by force.

    Turns out, I'm listed as a suspect in the police report.

    I told my ex about it (we ended up in good terms), and she sent a letter to the SB Sheriffs dept explaining how the whole incident wasn't my fault, that I never laid my hands on her or threatened her, etc (which I didn't). She thinks the whole incident was petty anyway. I called this Monday to find out if they received my Ex's letter (she sent it a little over a week ago) but instead they told me my Ex's letter wasn't on my file, but that I had already been denied a second time.

    What gives here? Guilty until proven innocent, except that in this case they seem to be not letting me prove my innocence because my Ex's letter is not even in my file! I'm debating whether or not to escalate this (file lawsuit) or wait for one of the several cases going before POTUS about carry rights to yield fruit before proceeding. What do you guys think?

    I understand where the SD is coming from and how they don't want CCWs in the hands of possible DM offenders, but this is ridiculous! What's funny is that the officer that I spoke to in the PD where the report is filed couldn't even believe that they would deny me for something so minor. Is there any recourse to clearing my name as suspect? There were no arrests, no charges, nothing.
    Last edited by Nopal; 07-11-2013, 12:00 AM.

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    • SonorousAria
      Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 329

      That sucks. While I'm no expert by any means, one thing I would imagine you may have been failed for is not reporting the incident in the interview. Especially since it was related to domestic violence, which I a pretty big issue with them. I'm assuming you didn't only be the fact that it came as a surprise to you. As I said, I'm far from an expert though, I'm still waiting for my background to come back.

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      • Nopal
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 666

        Originally posted by SonorousAria
        That sucks. While I'm no expert by any means, one thing I would imagine you may have been failed for is not reporting the incident in the interview. Especially since it was related to domestic violence, which I a pretty big issue with them. I'm assuming you didn't only be the fact that it came as a surprise to you. As I said, I'm far from an expert though, I'm still waiting for my background to come back.
        I did report it. I just didn't know I was listed as suspect. Good luck with your background check.
        Last edited by Nopal; 07-11-2013, 12:09 AM.

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        • SonorousAria
          Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 329

          No idea then, sorry. Only thing you might do is wait a year or 2, then reapply with that letter as part of the original app.

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          • Nopal
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 666

            Originally posted by SonorousAria
            No idea then, sorry. Only thing you might do is wait a year or 2, then reapply with that letter as part of the original app.
            Thanks, man, I appreciate it. I hadn't thought about that third option, but it shouldn't have to be like that.

            I'm sure there is more to this than that with my Ex's letter missing from my file and all that (probably lost under a pile of papers on the wrong desk?). From what I've heard about the SBSD, they're supposed to be pretty reasonable folks. At least the ones I've met have been.
            Last edited by Nopal; 07-11-2013, 12:29 AM.

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            • jaymz
              CGSSA Associate
              • Oct 2006
              • 6297

              I'm at SBSO waiting for my Livescan now. If you live in a city with its own PD, you WILL need a letter from them.
              War is when your Government tells you who the enemy is......

              Revolution is when you figure it out for yourself.

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              • Nopal
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 666

                Just a quick piece of bad, but practical advice to you men out there thinking about a permit in SB: Do not call the cops if you're involved in a domestic violence dispute and you're not the aggressor. Just tough it out, gentlemen!

                I know it's ****ty advice, but that's the way it goes.
                Last edited by Nopal; 07-12-2013, 9:20 AM.

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                • evlblkrfl
                  Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 465

                  Joyce just called me, permit is ready to pick up tuesday also.$116.80 more due upon pickup.

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                  • Haz
                    Junior Member
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 61

                    Originally posted by evlblkrfl
                    Joyce just called me, permit is ready to pick up tuesday also.$116.80 more due upon pickup.
                    Joyce called you on Sat.? Dang, girl is workin OT!
                    Land of the free, BECAUSE of the brave!
                    Thank a Veteran!

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                    • evlblkrfl
                      Member
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 465

                      I know, I was thinking the same thing.

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                      • jaymz
                        CGSSA Associate
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 6297

                        I know there's a few of you picking up LTC's today (07/16). Just curious to see what the process is. Pay your fee, get your card and leave? Or ???
                        War is when your Government tells you who the enemy is......

                        Revolution is when you figure it out for yourself.

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                        • Foxmaster05
                          Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 267

                          For those picking up their permit today, please post up the date of your interview if you wouldn't mind. Would help to give the rest of us an estimate of how long the wait/process is after that point. I interviewed late April and am about 10 days away from 90 =/ Neighbors indicated the SBCSD passed through the neighborhood well over a month ago, but my boss has not yet received an 'employment verification' letter =/
                          Last edited by Foxmaster05; 07-16-2013, 12:56 PM. Reason: Added more info

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                          • jaymz
                            CGSSA Associate
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 6297

                            February/March interviews seem to be the ones getting their license today. I'd guess that the limited training schedule is what lumped everyone together. 5-6 months from interview to issuance seems to be where we're at right now.
                            War is when your Government tells you who the enemy is......

                            Revolution is when you figure it out for yourself.

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                            • evlblkrfl
                              Member
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 465

                              Early March interview, picked up permit today. Called in to be put on waiting list mid October.So start to finish almost 9 months. Just walked in today with a $116.80 money order and walked out with credit card type permit. 5 minutes tops. Stoked!

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                              • tylenol9999
                                Member
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 393

                                Picked up my permit yesterday my interview was early February.
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