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  • Desertdoc
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2015
    • 593

    Originally posted by rko
    I put in my SSN on my form. And yes the lady doing my prints told me not to fill in the employer portion of the form. My livescan form also had FBI already checked.

    Anyone call that DOJ automated number recently to check the status of their livescan? I just called and appears there is no record of my scan lol. I'll call back and check in a few days to see if anything changes.
    The DOJ receiving livescan results is near instantaneous.
    Primum Non Nocere

    Good Medicine, Bad Places.

    Do No Harm, Do Know Harm.

    "SA MC Operator. Cuz, you gotta Operate when you're cruzin' the couch with the vodka!"--XDJYo

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    • CalAlumnus
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2014
      • 817

      Originally posted by Desertdoc
      Let me do some research, I will post what I have found no later than EOB Monday.
      I only found these:
      PC 26185(a)(2)
      Upon receipt of the fingerprints and the fee as prescribed in Section 26190, the department shall promptly
      Looks like no requirement in statute. Is there a caselaw definition of "promptly?"

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      • Desertdoc
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2015
        • 593

        Very confusing info. to be had here, and it will make people ask more questions than can be answered.

        The California Department of Justice (DOJ) is mandated to maintain the statewide criminal record repository for the State of California. In this capacity, sheriff, police and probation departments, district attorney offices, and courts submit arrest and corresponding disposition information. The DOJ uses this information to compile records of arrest and prosecution, known as “RAP sheets,” for individuals and disseminates the information for law enforcement and regulatory (employment and licensing) purposes.
        THERE IS NO MANUAL SEARCH THAT IS DONE BECAUSE AFIS HAS ALREADY COME UP WITH A MATCH. The new prints are then assigned to the established record under the established CII number. Everyone who has been printed in California for criminal or applicant purposes is assigned a CII number.

        If a person has been fingerprinted, but the new prints do not hit on anything then AFIS will assign the new prints a new CII number and create a new record. This happens a lot.

        So that is a bit of the process.
        Primum Non Nocere

        Good Medicine, Bad Places.

        Do No Harm, Do Know Harm.

        "SA MC Operator. Cuz, you gotta Operate when you're cruzin' the couch with the vodka!"--XDJYo

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        • Desertdoc
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2015
          • 593

          Originally posted by CalAlumnus
          I only found these:


          Looks like no requirement in statute. Is there a caselaw definition of "promptly?"
          Oops, I am incorrect. You are right, no requirement.
          Primum Non Nocere

          Good Medicine, Bad Places.

          Do No Harm, Do Know Harm.

          "SA MC Operator. Cuz, you gotta Operate when you're cruzin' the couch with the vodka!"--XDJYo

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          • CalAlumnus
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2014
            • 817

            Originally posted by Desertdoc
            Everyone who has been printed in California for criminal or applicant purposes is assigned a CII number.
            I've been Live Scanned three times before, all for background checks for government employment. Once in 2007, then 2010, then 2013. All three were at a County sheriff (not Sac County, though). Should this speed up the response time for me?

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            • rko
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2015
              • 24

              Originally posted by Desertdoc
              The DOJ receiving livescan results is near instantaneous.
              Just called again replacing what I thought were zeroes to the letter O, and now it says both have been approved.

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              • Aasillak
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2014
                • 564

                Originally posted by CalAlumnus
                I've been Live Scanned three times before, all for background checks for government employment. Once in 2007, then 2010, then 2013. All three were at a County sheriff (not Sac County, though). Should this speed up the response time for me?
                Doubt it because by supervisor did his live scan on 2/4 and still nothing and he gets his background check yearly for volunteer firefighting.

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                • Erichp
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 830

                  Originally posted by 916mestizo
                  Ouch! Any idea on when this "person" will return?
                  I wouldnt worry to much about this. Almost 50% of my office is out for the week wth kiddies on spring break.

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                  • Erichp
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 830

                    K everyone, I'll take the blame for this one. I went forward with my CCW training and qualification even though I didnt get livescan back, so that just threw it all out of kilter and am increasing the process time.

                    I'm thinking of washing my car next to ensure I cant make use of that new battery I got for my motorcycle.

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                    • Erichp
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 830

                      Originally posted by CalAlumnus
                      Have they actually slowed it down? Seems the people who have received their results recently report 25-45 days. If you call, the Sheriff says "Wait until it's been more than 90 days, then we'll start looking into things." But I haven't heard anyone say their results actually took 90+ days.
                      The most recent anecdotal feedback seems to point to that. Just in the last 4 pages or so, more folks on the long end and the one that took 5+ months. I am near 45 right now myself.

                      Go back 10 pages or so and it was in the 30ish range, but depends on how you interpret I imagine. Just think, we both ended up great than the "next Thursday meeting'.

                      But I dont expect anything quicker than 60 to 90 myself. Especially based on the complete bottleneck I observed at the Livescan facility with everyone being turned away the hour plus I sat there with the other dozen waiting.

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                      • Desertdoc
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 593

                        Originally posted by Erichp
                        I wouldnt worry to much about this. Almost 50% of my office is out for the week wth kiddies on spring break.
                        Do you work in BoF?
                        Primum Non Nocere

                        Good Medicine, Bad Places.

                        Do No Harm, Do Know Harm.

                        "SA MC Operator. Cuz, you gotta Operate when you're cruzin' the couch with the vodka!"--XDJYo

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                        • j_angeles
                          Junior Member
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 69

                          So I have my first initial appointment next Thursday the 16th. On the application, when it asks for moving violations and accidents within the last 5 years, did y'all just list whats on your driving record per DMV print out, or did you list every conviction although you may have cleared it by traffic school? I ask because I got 2 speeding tickets in 2012. I took traffic school for one. One shows on my printout. Do I still list the violation that cleared?

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                          • Aasillak
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2014
                            • 564

                            Originally posted by Erichp
                            K everyone, I'll take the blame for this one. I went forward with my CCW training and qualification even though I didnt get livescan back, so that just threw it all out of kilter and am increasing the process time.

                            I'm thinking of washing my car next to ensure I cant make use of that new battery I got for my motorcycle.
                            LOL I did my training in the end of January well before my initial interview in early February and did my live scan on March 3rd. Talk about doing it backwards.

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                            • CalAlumnus
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2014
                              • 817

                              Originally posted by j_angeles
                              So I have my first initial appointment next Thursday the 16th. On the application, when it asks for moving violations and accidents within the last 5 years, did y'all just list whats on your driving record per DMV print out, or did you list every conviction although you may have cleared it by traffic school? I ask because I got 2 speeding tickets in 2012. I took traffic school for one. One shows on my printout. Do I still list the violation that cleared?
                              The general advice here is to list everything, even if it's been more than 5 years.

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                              • Hvac_dude
                                Member
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 216

                                Originally posted by Tiberius
                                Hvac,

                                I'm pretty sure you need to qualify with any weapon you want to add to your permit.
                                Originally posted by moose71
                                You MUST qualify with every gun you add to your permit. I've done two modifications and had to qualify with each firearm.
                                Originally posted by Dvrjon
                                this covers it:



                                Most training agencies have nominal prices for add-on shooting quals.
                                Perfect, thank you guys.

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